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Topic: Single Neck Movement |
Douglas Bryant
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California, USA
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Posted 1 Nov 2014 8:50 am |
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| I am a non-pedal steel guitar player wanting to move into the world of pedal steel. Would like to get a Universal set-up and am concerned about the amount of movement the guitar would have while playing it. Any thoughts on this? Does a single neck set-up on a double-neck body have better stability? Any brands known for making a stable PSG? |
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 1 Nov 2014 9:21 am
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They are all stable. It is not an issue worth worrying about.
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Brett Day
From:
Pickens, SC
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Posted 1 Nov 2014 9:43 am
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| I play an SD-10 singleneck Jackson Blackjack Custom, and it stays in place onstage while I'm playing. The Jackson Steel Guitar Co. makes a stable pedal steel. The best thing to do here is do some research on different brands, there are many great brands to choose from. Jackson Steel can make a twelve string Universal Blackjack Custom. |
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Mark van Allen
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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 1 Nov 2014 11:10 pm
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Coming from non-pedal playing, I can see how this might be of concern. Even relatively stable pedal guitars can "feel" like they move, or give some as pedals and particularly knee levers are engaged, compared to a non-pedal guitar.
In some respects, it's something you will get used to. While I generally agree with Bob, there are some brands of guitars that have been noted to have more "give" when knee levers are engaged. Please note, this can be more pronounced when you're learning to play knee levers, as many people tend to move them more forcibly than necessary to sort of "physically make the change happen". Just an observation after watching many students over the years. Some very light weight guitars, perhaps including some universal keyless models on a single body, may tend to walk sideways a bit more under heavy lever pressure.
There have been many conversations over the years where people evince a preference for Single neck on a Double body construction to head this problem off.
I've owned a fair number of guitars over the years, and very few seemed flimsy or prone to movement when using pedals/knee levers. Best to quiz previous owners while you shop if this is of great concern to you. It does seem to be more of an issue with student model or semi-pro guitars.
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 2 Nov 2014 5:56 am
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| Mark van Allen wrote: |
Coming from non-pedal playing, I can see how this might be of concern. Even relatively stable pedal guitars can "feel" like they move, or give some as pedals and particularly knee levers are engaged, compared to a non-pedal guitar.
[...] Please note, this can be more pronounced when you're learning to play knee levers, as many people tend to move them more forcibly than necessary to sort of "physically make the change happen". Just an observation after watching many students over the years.
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This. Like every other skill we acquire, we start out kinda ham-fisted and acquire subtlety with time and practice. As long as you have/get a solid pro model, they'll all be good at it, but the student models are often flimsy.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 2 Nov 2014 6:03 am
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My primary question is---why are you asking?
Have you sat at a PSG and found it to be unstable?
Have you seen someone playing one that seemed to move a lot?
As per Bob, it really should not be a concern as you narrow down your choices. It is just not an issue with pro guitars.
I have seen people playing fine steels that looked like they were moving a lot. It made me realize that whatever it may look like, it does not feel like that from the player's side. |
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2014 6:11 am
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| Jon Light wrote: |
My primary question is---why are you asking?
Have you sat at a PSG and found it to be unstable?
Have you seen someone playing one that seemed to move a lot?
As per Bob, it really should not be a concern as you narrow down your choices. It is just not an issue with pro guitars.
I have seen people playing fine steels that looked like they were moving a lot. It made me realize that whatever it may look like, it does not feel like that from the player's side. |
I have been playing single frame s 10 steels for 38 years,,, They really don't move at all, unless you play it like a Neanderthal would.
You should have NO problem with any pro model single frame pedal steel.. If you buy a Carter Starter, all bets are off...
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I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 4 Nov 2014 6:45 pm Single Neck Moving
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| I Play a S10 MSA. The one thing that will make a problem on a S10 is a uneven floor. Make sure all 4 legs set solid and tight on the floor. Adjust a back leg till the steel has a solid 4 legged stand. Waxed tile floor can make one squirmy also. |
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