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Topic: 1st string whole tone raise |
Jason Putnam
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 15 Oct 2014 3:17 pm |
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Is it possible to use string 4 raise as a half stop to get both raises(half and whole) on string 1. I hear a lot of stuff with that change in it.
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John Swain
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Winchester, Va
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Posted 15 Oct 2014 4:07 pm
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| You can set string1 to half stop as string2 starts moving. Even better if you move string7 with string1. |
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Jason Putnam
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 15 Oct 2014 4:10 pm
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String 7 is what I meant to say. Thanks!!
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 15 Oct 2014 4:22 pm
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I have the half-step raise on string one on a knee lever in conjunction with the full-step lower on string 6. Fairly standard RKL on a push-pull with the Emmons set-up.
Whenever you need to raise string one a full-step, it's easy just to pull the string toward you with your third finger (behind the bar) in conjunction with the knee lever until it raises a full-step. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 15 Oct 2014 6:14 pm
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I have both the G and G# on different levers. Actually, I moved the first and second string changes to the pedal next to my A pedal. I hit the F# to G so fast at times, that there is no way I would risk missing that half stop. If you must have the string 1 to G#, then learn how to pull the string behind the bar to get the G. Even though I have a lever to get the G, I still find times where the finger pull ( not to be confused with " pull my finger") is quicker, or just cooler looking.
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 15 Oct 2014 7:16 pm
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If you fingerpull, string 2 usually ends at E when 1 hits G#. Which usually goes along with it.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 15 Oct 2014 10:22 pm
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I have never been able to finger pull 1 to G#.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 16 Oct 2014 3:49 pm
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"I have never been able to finger pull 1 to G#."
I have, and it hurt! Never attempt it again,,,,at least with my current string gauges. |
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Jason Putnam
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 16 Oct 2014 4:17 pm
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I got it setup using 7 as a halfstop now. Just wish it had a little more tension. But it's working.
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1967 Emmons Bolt On, 1995 Mullen PRP 3x5,Nashville 112, JOYO Digital Delay, Goodrich Volume Pedal, Livesteel Strings |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 16 Oct 2014 7:29 pm
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| John Billings wrote: |
"I have never been able to finger pull 1 to G#."
I have, and it hurt! Never attempt it again,,,,at least with my current string gauges. |
On the lower frets, just pulling to G is rough. If I tried to get to G#, I'd probably slice my fingers off.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 16 Oct 2014 7:38 pm
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| It put one heck of a dent in my callus! It hurt! |
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Ron Pruter
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2014 8:19 pm
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Lane's talking about string 2. I only fingerpull string 1 1/2 step.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 19 Oct 2014 3:05 am
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Actually Lane is talking about string 2 hitting E when he pulls string 1 to G #.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 19 Oct 2014 4:50 am
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| Richard Sinkler wrote: |
| Actually Lane is talking about string 2 hitting E when he pulls string 1 to G #. |
Bingo.
If your fingers are strong and tough enough (perhaps you need to be a burly truck driver?), if you pull 1 to G#, you have to pull it so far distance-wise that string 2 also gets pulled, and it's CLOSE to an E. Not close enough to let it sustain a long time, but close enough to IMPLY unison.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 19 Oct 2014 10:33 am
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Just a question for you Lane. Can you make that pull at say, the second fret? How quickly can you make the pull? As fast as a pedal/ lever? I find that just pulling to G is tough at the first through third frets.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 19 Oct 2014 10:47 am
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I can do it at the third. I don't think I could do it at 2. But not many people play in F#.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 19 Oct 2014 2:03 pm
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You should play in the band I am playing with. Girl singer does a couple songs in F#, as well as Bb and Db.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Ron Pruter
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 19 Oct 2014 9:40 pm
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Holy cheez slicer,Batman!!!
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Emmons SKH Le Grande, '73 Fender P/J bass, Tick tack bass, Regal high strung, USA Nashville 112. |
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Clyde Lane
From:
Glasgow, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 20 Oct 2014 5:33 am
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A word of warning: If you pull the first string to F# on a lever you may be tempted to pull it to up to "A" behind the bar, don't do it if you value your fingers behind the bar.
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Richard Sinkler
From:
aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 20 Oct 2014 10:04 am
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Clyde, I'm sure you mean pull to G# and then be tempted to pull it to A. That has never crossed my mind, and not sure why anyone would want to.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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