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Dennis Manuel
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Quesnel, B.C., Canada
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Posted 26 Sep 2014 2:27 pm |
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Robert Parent
From:
Gillette, WY
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Posted 27 Sep 2014 3:42 am
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I think one of the biggest differences for most is the lack of an additional external speaker connection on the GX. The XL has been discontinued and replaced by the GX.
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Robert Parent
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Gillette, WY
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Posted 27 Sep 2014 3:43 am
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I think one of the biggest differences for most is the lack of an additional external speaker connection on the GX. The XL has been discontinued and replaced by the GX.
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Tommy Mc
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Middlesex VT
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Posted 27 Sep 2014 5:20 pm
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There are a couple of differences between the GX and XL.
The Cube 80XL had a "EXT Speaker" jack and a "Looper" which is missing from the GX.
The GX has added the "i-CUBE LINK/Aux-In" which is a 2-way interface "which lets you integrate with your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch"
There's also a slight change (for the better IMHO) in the way the programmable "Solo" channel works. On the 80XL, you saved the EQ and EFX settings and operated them with a dedicated "Volume" control. On the GX, the EQ, EFX and Volume are saved when you program the Solo. The Volume knob has been re-purposed as a "Master" on the GX.
Just my opinion, but I'd gladly trade the i-CUBE function to get the Looper and EXT speaker back. |
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Stephen Cowell
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Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2014 9:09 pm
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Theoretically there is no reason you can't put your own external speaker jack on there... you can wire it to interrupt the internal speaker, or you can put it in series like the XL. You're not supposed to go below 8ohms, though... that's why the XL had the jack in series.
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Tommy Mc
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Middlesex VT
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 6:04 am
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Mike, I bought my Cube based on playing my band-mates 80X. By the time I bought mine, the 80XL had come out. In comparing the two, there were only a few differences we could find...other than cosmetics. The XL had a longer record time on the Looper, they added the "Heavy Octave" effect, and the amp sim "Extreme". The XL added a second button so the Looper and Tap no longer shared the same button.
Cosmetically, the XL added some color to the control panel and the plastic corner protectors were a slightly different pattern. |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 8:17 am
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Thanks Tommy. I'm toying with the idea of getting one.
My 1976 Music Man HD 212 sounds awesome, but it weighs a ton, (even with the Telonics neodynium speakers,) and I'm getting too old to carry it around.
I've been told that my amp is one of the rare ones with the tube pre-amp. Music Man switched to SS in '77
My ZT Clubs weigh only 22 pounds, but don't have as much depth as I'd prefer. I'd like to get something in between those 2 extremes.
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Bill Moore
From:
Manchester, Michigan
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 12:50 pm
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| Mike, don't bother with the Roland, get a GK MB200, use your prefered speaker with it. It's cheaper, lighter, and sounds better. |
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 4:37 pm
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| Mike Perlowin wrote: |
Thanks Tommy. I'm toying with the idea of getting one.
My 1976 Music Man HD 212 sounds awesome, but it weighs a ton, (even with the Telonics neodynium speakers,) and I'm getting too old to carry it around.
I've been told that my amp is one of the rare ones with the tube pre-amp. Music Man switched to SS in '77
My ZT Clubs weigh only 22 pounds, but don't have as much depth as I'd prefer. I'd like to get something in between those 2 extremes. |
Mike... If there is only one 12 AX7 tube in your amp, it isn't really a pre amp tube.. Its the phase inverter. These are still considered as SS pre amp design..
If you have several 12 ax7 tubes, it would indeed be an "all tube" MM amp, but I am not aware they ever made any.. If it is indeed all tube, its exceedingly rare.. MM went from a 12ax7 PI to solid state around 1978.. some guys say there is no sound difference at all in the MM amps with SS PI, but having owned a few of both, I think the 12 ax7 PI amps sound a bit less solid state... bob
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 5:03 pm
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Bob, I have no idea what's inside the amp, and don't know anything about the different kinds of tubes. I do know however, that the amp was made in 1976, the first year of production. (I bought it used in '77.)
I recently had it refurbished with new tubes, new caps, and a set of Telonics neodymium speakers. The guy who did the work told me it has the tube preamp, which I believe was only made that first year.
The only thing I can say for certain is that it's a great sounding amp, that has served me well for 37 years.
My only complaint is that it seems to weigh more as I get older.
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Jan Viljoen
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Pretoria, South Africa
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Michael Coggins
From:
Sligo, Ireland
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Posted 1 Oct 2014 4:30 am Roland Amps
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| Mike Perlowin wrote: |
| What's the difference between the XL and the X? |
Another difference - On the 80XL the solo function lets you store one setting each for the JC channel and the Lead channel. On the 80X you can only store the Lead channel, not the JC panel settings.
I have a 1979 Music Man HD130 212, it's got the phase inverter and Electrovoice speakers - its a beast!!
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John Russell
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 7 Oct 2014 4:34 pm Cube 80 testimonial
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I've been using the Cube amps for about 10 years--starting with the Cube 60 and now the Cube 80X. These work for me and I've owned lots of Peavey and Fender amps. The Cube 80X weighs 35 lbs., not exactly flyweight but manageable. I use external FX including the Boss GE-7 and a couple of Boss delay pedals. I'm never disappointed with this rig.
Today I hooked up the Sierra SD12U to my Roland ME-70 driving a JBL EOS 510 powered speaker. Amazing sound from this little 10" speaker! Plenty of gain and it weighs 17 lbs. The the ME-70 has a built-in pre-amp with amp models similar to the Cube 80 plus all the effects I'll need. At age 66, and after back surgery, I'm very conscious of what things weigh. (The Sierra mostly stays home for this reason but I still occasionally get inspired to gig with it.)
I can't say this is my new rig but it'll get gig tested this Sunday at the VFW. |
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John Russell
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Austin, Texas
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Posted 7 Oct 2014 4:38 pm Cube 80 testimonial
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I've been using the Cube amps for about 10 years--starting with the Cube 60 and now the Cube 80X. These work for me and I've owned lots of Peavey and Fender amps. The Cube 80X weighs 35 lbs., not exactly flyweight but manageable. I use external FX including the Boss GE-7 and a couple of Boss delay pedals. I'm never disappointed with this rig.
Today I hooked up the Sierra SD12U to my Roland ME-70 driving a JBL EOS 510 powered speaker. Amazing sound from this little 10" speaker! Plenty of gain and it weighs 17 lbs. The the ME-70 has a built-in pre-amp with amp models similar to the Cube 80 plus all the effects I'll need. At age 66, and after back surgery, I'm very conscious of what things weigh. (The Sierra mostly stays home for this reason but I still occasionally get inspired to gig with it.)
I can't say this is my new rig but it'll get gig tested this Sunday at the VFW. |
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John Russell
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 7 Oct 2014 4:59 pm
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| Sorry guys. |
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