msa knee lever repair

Quentin Hickey · From: Nova Scotia, Canada

Hi guys. My 74 msa classic is pretty much a brand new 40 year old guitar. I am very lucky to be the owner of it. I just wanted to say first a.hats off to Jim Palenscar for keeping us MSA guys happy with making the parts for these old beauties. I ordered a vl kit and a lkr kit. Very very happy with them thanks Jim.

I do however have a tech question for anyone with experience. My rkl seems to have been bent a little. You know what happens when you go to sit at them and if your not careful. Well this one was bent. I've attached a pic. How is the most painless way to fix it. Is there a.way to pull that little steel pin out or does it have to be drilled? And if drilled you would have to put a bigger one back in its place I assume.

Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

If you have those sorts of hydraulic toys, you might be able to press it out the way it went in.
In a previous discussion, it transpired that those pins are HARD steel. Might prove tougher than your drill bit.
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Michael Yahl · From: Troy, Texas!

OK, here's the skinny.
Those roll pins cannot be pressed out as they are in a blind hole.

To drill them, you'd better have a variety of small sizes of cobalt drills and a very rigid and accurate setup to hold both part and drill otherwise it will get ugly real fast.

I suggest that you get a c-clamp, put lots of tape on the pads of the c-clamp, and then just close the clamp over the end of the lever. This should bring the flared end back fairly close to where it should be and if the roll pin holes didn't get elongated, they should hold the thin flange in place.

If it's still exceptionally loose and really bothers you, I have plenty of them in stock.

http://www.psgparts.com/Lever-Knee-Sanded-200-100-006.htm Very Happy

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Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

I think I'd buy another.
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Quentin Hickey · From: Nova Scotia, Canada

Yeah your right Micheal. I will contact you soon about a lever. I'm the type of guy that like to keep my gear functioning and looking the way it should.

Quentin Hickey · From: Nova Scotia, Canada

Michael. Just went over to your site. It wont let me add 10 string adjustable return spring kits. Are they currently out of stock?

Michael Yahl · From: Troy, Texas!

Yes Quentin, they are out of stock at this time. I will try and get some of those filled in the next few weeks.
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Quentin Hickey · From: Nova Scotia, Canada

Ok I will wait and order everything in one shot. Im going to get a few other things as well so right my name down for 2 of those spring kits, a knee lever, and a 7.5 inch up lever.

Quentin Hickey · From: Nova Scotia, Canada

Good to see you back in business btw.

John De Maille · From: On a Mountain in Upstate Halcottsville, N.Y.

I like Michaels idea of the C- clamp. That lever looks to be aluminum and should return pretty close to what it was with clamping it down. With enough compression, you'll probably make it just as tight as it was before. Just seems like less fuss and worth a try.

Lee Dassow · From: Jefferson, Georgia USA

Michael, I need a vertical lever kit and other parts for my 74 MSA D-10. What's your new phone no. I'm no good with E mails. Tennessee Lee
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Mike Wheeler · From: Delaware, Ohio, USA

Lee, his phone number from his website is 602.315.6732.
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Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

(And relatively recent laws say you can keep your number when you move. If I were Michael, I'd keep the Arizona number rather than change it)
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Michael Yahl · From: Troy, Texas!

Yes, it's the same one. Area code says Phoenix but now in central Texas.
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Lee Dassow · From: Jefferson, Georgia USA

thanks for his number Mike. I called him. I'll be waiting on him. He's not quit up and running yet. T.L.
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Jim Reynolds · From: Franklin, Pa 16323

You could check with Tom Bradshaw. He has about anything you want for an MSA, and a great man to deal with.
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Jim Reynolds · From: Franklin, Pa 16323

You could check with Tom Bradshaw. He has about anything you want for an MSA, and a great man to deal with.
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Dennis Detweiler · From: Solon, Iowa, US

If you're handy with tap and die, there's about a 1/4 inch space at the end of the lever that could be drilled and tapped and use a small stainless steel cap screw to pull it together permanently.
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Paul Hoaglin · Posted 10 Oct 2014 9:22 pm

Larry Henson · From: Texas, USA

I had the same thing happen to my MSA. The metal was not cracked ...just bent. I took a pair of pliers and squeezed it back together. No problems. Try this before going to the expensive route. Also if the metal is cracked a little JB Weld can fix that,,,,
Larry Smile

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