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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 9:58 am |
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Are there any Native American steelers out there?
We all know how the steel guitar has worked its way into Country Music, the Blues, Zydaco and Sacred Steel, but has it worked its way into Native American music yet? |
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Herb Steiner
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Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 10:03 am
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Jimmy Dreadfulwater is an Oklahoma steel player
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 12:04 pm
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I like his moccasins…  |
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Andy Jones
From:
Mississippi
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 12:45 pm
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Paddy Long
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Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 4:53 pm
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His Hair-doo is longer than Joe Wrights !!!! 
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john buffington
From:
Owasso OK - USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 5:31 pm
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| I am also a member of the Cherokee Nation here in Oklahoma. |
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Fred Justice
From:
Mesa, Arizona
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 5:39 pm
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John, isn't Rick Crow a member of the Cherokee nation as well?
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Russ Wever
From:
Kansas City
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Keith Hilton
From:
248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 7:58 pm
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| I am a 1/16 Cherokee. I recently saw Jimmy and Eddie Dreadfulwater do their show in Branson. Jimmy is a longtime friend of mine. John, I figured you were a member of the Cherokee Nation, because there are a lot of Buffington's on the Dawes Rolls. |
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Joe Savage
From:
St. Paul, MN
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 8:28 pm
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I am a member of the Fond du Lac Band of Ojibwe (Chippewa) up here in Minnesota.
I've played on some releases by Keith Secola, a well know Native singer/songwriter who was one of the first to blend rock and country with traditional drum beats and vocals. I've played shows with him all over the country. Other than drum groups and traditional singers, I'd say most "Native American" artists are doing various forms of all the popular styles. Blues, rock, country, hip-hop...etc. I'm not on top of all the stuff going on in Native music, but I do know there is a whole world and network of Native musicians playing shows and events around the country that most people aren't aware of. |
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Joe Savage
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St. Paul, MN
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Posted 28 Sep 2014 8:38 pm
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I'd just like to add that I have had the thought to gather some traditional songs and do arrangements for the steel. Maybe an arts grant type of thing, but you know, so much to do and such a tiny brain to do it with.  |
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Don R Brown
From:
Rochester, New York, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2014 4:49 am
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| Joe Savage wrote: |
I am a member of the Fond du Lac Band of Ojibwe (Chippewa) up here in Minnesota.
I do know there is a whole world and network of Native musicians playing shows and events around the country that most people aren't aware of. |
Joe, in wandering through YouTube some time back I came across several Native American bands, mostly from the southwest, doing old country or indi country-rock. None of the ones I saw had a steel player, but some of it was good music regardless. |
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john buffington
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Owasso OK - USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2014 5:33 am
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Fred - there is a possibility of Rick being of the Cherokee Tribe.
Keith - The Buffington's on the roll (I too have a Roll Number) some of which were Methodist Missionaries also. The late Ed Buffington (Evans Amps) and I according to the researched stats he found, are distant cousins. In addition, in the early 1900's the Chief of the Cherokee Nation, at that time was T. M. Buffington, who also is in my family. |
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Keith Hilton
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248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 29 Sep 2014 9:18 am
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John, if you check, only one Hilton is in the Dawes Rolls. But their are a bunch of Carter, Davis names. Some of my Grandmother's side of the family still lives in Talequah. All of my distant relatives moved to Oklahoma,Southwest Missouri area in 1839, during the-Trail of Tears-forced Indian removal-when Andrew Jackson ran the Indians out of Tennessee. Jimmy Dreadfulwater ask if I knew why the U.S. Goverment was sending all the space ships to the planet Mars? Jimmy said it was because some U.S. Congressmen and Senators heard there was Inidan Land up there!!!!!!  |
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 29 Sep 2014 9:29 am
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My wife is one sixteenth Sioux, which makes both my daughters one thirty-second Native American. I guess for someone born in England that's about as close as I shall ever get.  |
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Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2014 12:54 pm
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I'm 1/32 Mohawk, in amongst all the other hodgepodge of my ancestry. Most of the people (and musicians) I run into anywhere around georgia claim some Cherokee descent. I don't recall having heard any Native American type music featuring Steel Guitar. Seems like something that would work well with the new-agey flute recordings...
On an interesting (to me) side note, the Mohawk tribe is one of several that have been discovered to contain Haplotype X in their genetic makeup, which reveals (quite ancient) Mediterranean Caucasian contributions to the genetic stream, or a basically verifiable indicator for inter-oceanic settlement in America millennia ago. I wonder how long before that shows up in the history books.
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Bill Dobkins
From:
Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2014 8:51 pm Indian
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My GrGr Grandmother was in the trail of tears. My GrGr Grandfather married her in Madison county, Mo.
This is on my dads side. On my moms side my Gr Grand mother was full blooded Cherokee. I'm very proud of my Indian heritage. My christened Indian name is Buffalo Hump. LOL
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Jan Viljoen
From:
Pretoria, South Africa
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Posted 29 Sep 2014 11:42 pm
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I dont want to sidetrack this interesting thread, but I want to answer Mark van Allen.
Admin can rule me out of bounds.
The haplogroup X is found in approximately 7% of native Europeans (mostly from eastern Europe) and 3% of all Native Americans from North America.
More info on Google.
Sofar two proven routes to the USA exist, the North Atlantic one by Vikings and the Alaskan entry by original Asians.
It will have to be proven by other genes from which origin your DNA comes from.
By the way I enjoy your rock course for pedal steel.
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Rick Stratton
From:
Tujunga, California, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2014 7:36 am
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I'm another Cherokee descendant. My Great Grandmother was full-blooded Cherokee.
What percentage would that make me?
My father's mother never slept in a real bed until her wedding night (at 16)!
No birth certificate has ever been located for her since she was born on a hillside, Native American-style.
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 30 Sep 2014 10:52 am
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| Jan Viljoen wrote: |
...The haplogroup X is found in approximately 7% of native Europeans (mostly from eastern Europe) and 3% of all Native Americans from North America.
So far two proven routes to the USA exist, the North Atlantic one by Vikings and the Alaskan entry by original Asians.
It will have to be proven by other genes from which origin your DNA comes from... |
There was an article in National Geographic a couple of years ago which talked about skeletons of Native Americans on the East Coast as having Mediterranean features, not Mongoloid, and it was suggested that, during the last Ice Age, seal hunters walked across from Europe pursuing prey.
Skeletons dug up in South America were shown to be African in origin, which suggests that the tribes of Western Africa were trading with the South American "indians" centuries before Columbus. |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 30 Sep 2014 5:38 pm
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| I am 1/11166000th part. I once looked at a Cherokee. |
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Drew Pierce
From:
Arkansas, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2014 6:20 pm
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I am an enrolled Osage. I also serve as Associate Justice on the Osage Nation Supreme Court.
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2014 7:38 pm
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Wow, those Bigsby intruments! A 15-pedal triple-neck?? And how many Bigsby guitar/mando doublenecks are there? And where's that one now? |
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 1 Oct 2014 10:08 am
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| Brint Hannay wrote: |
| ...Wow, those Bigsby intruments! A 15-pedal triple-neck?? And how many Bigsby guitar/mando doublenecks are there? And where's that one now? |
...and what sort of music did that band play? I should like to hear some of it. |
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Eddie Cunningham
From:
Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 1 Oct 2014 1:05 pm Family blood line ???
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| My Grandmother on my Mothers side was a MicMac Indian from North of Quebec , Canada !! Does that count ?? olde geeze - AKA Eddie "C" |
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