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Topic: Sho-Bud Date |
Robert Stewart Johnson
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Posted 31 Aug 2014 10:58 am |
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I have recently got hold of a Blonde, birds-maple, Sho-Bud, 'The Professional-lll Custom'. On the label inside it says Model no. 6164, Serial no. 1084, inspected by SJ.
Can anyone tell me what year this was made?
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 31 Aug 2014 12:28 pm
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'the professional' model was around 1970.
'the pro lll custom' was a few years later.
inspected by shot jackson (?) |
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Gene Haugh
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Posted 31 Aug 2014 5:01 pm Sho~Bud # 1084
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Robert,
This Guitar Serial #1084 is a model 6143 built 4/22/1971. I am pretty sure it was built by Paul Franklin. It was shipped 4/30/71 to Paul Dunkelberger, No address!
That is all the information I have.
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 31 Aug 2014 6:11 pm
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Paul Franklin Sr. didn't start working with Sho~bud until 1972. Robert by your descriptions and what you are reading and saying what a label says and what not....sounds like something is wrong with the reality of what you have. You show me and Gene some pictures top to bottom and we can tell you exactly what it is.
Ricky
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Gene Haugh
From:
Arkansas, USA
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Posted 31 Aug 2014 8:57 pm #1084
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Ricky,
The production card has the name Paul in the Built By space and I just took it to be Paul Sr. so I could very well be wrong.
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 31 Aug 2014 9:15 pm
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Gene, I think what Ricky meant was that the label on the cabinet has one model number and the serial number records show another model number, I suspect that the guitar may have a wrong endplate...
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Last edited by Lane Gray on 1 Sep 2014 7:49 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 1 Sep 2014 7:28 am
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Yes Lane understands what I mean. Yes by the very non-explanation and non pictures of the shobud in question; some things aren't adding up.
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Ricky Davis
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Robert Stewart Johnson
From:
Birmingham/United Kingdom
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Posted 1 Sep 2014 8:50 am
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Thanks for the response guys - here are some photos - the serial stamped on the body is the same as the serial number on the label, this might not be clear in the photo.
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Clyde Lane
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Glasgow, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 1 Sep 2014 9:28 am
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If you would give the full serial number Gene could give you the build date. A guess is 76-77 Pro III Custom.
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Robert Stewart Johnson
From:
Birmingham/United Kingdom
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Posted 1 Sep 2014 10:23 am
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| the label inside it says Model no. 6164, Serial no. 1084, inspected by SJ. |
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Ian Worley
From:
Sacramento, CA
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Posted 1 Sep 2014 10:40 am
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The serial number on the label looks like five digits, not clear enough to read in the pic, maybe 12348?, which would make sense for a guitar that is clearly from the late 70s --> |
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Robert Stewart Johnson
From:
Birmingham/United Kingdom
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Posted 1 Sep 2014 10:47 am
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| Sorry that serial no is 10849 |
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Ian Worley
From:
Sacramento, CA
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Posted 1 Sep 2014 11:04 am
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| July 1976? According to Don Blood's chronology, guitar #10851 was built July 7, 1976. Gene? |
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Gene Haugh
From:
Arkansas, USA
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Posted 1 Sep 2014 1:38 pm #10849
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Hey Guy's,
Serial Numbers are very important to determining these dates. Serial # 10849 is a 6164 "Natural" Built by S.J. (Shot Jackson?)7/6/76, Inspected by Yasu. Kameya and shipped to Gretsch Inventory 7/15/76.
Another date on the card is
9/5/79-(Baldwin Piano England)?
When I took over the production of Sho~Bud in October 1979 we never put labels like the one on this guitar. The only lable was a patent label.
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Robert Stewart Johnson
From:
Birmingham/United Kingdom
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Posted 1 Sep 2014 4:55 pm
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This is great! thanks for the info! I bought it here in the uk and it looks as though it has been here in the uk all it's life! This baby is mine!
Thanks again!
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