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Topic: D10 conversion to SD10 |
Jim Kolman
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New York, USA
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Posted 28 Aug 2014 10:20 am |
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I have a round front wooden body Sho Bud D10 pre professional rack and barrel. 8 pedals, 2 (RKR and LKR) knees. I have enough parts for at least one more knee(RKL)
Asking the forum.
Should I convert this to a single neck?
This was a basket case and had a real hurting put on the racks, barrels and rods by a previous owner to the point where it almost hit the curb. I am already in over 1500 with a lot of hours to get it going, E9 now works well and sounds great. Just about to tackle the C6th neck refurb and noticed on Ebay that conversion to single necks actually sell for more than a double. It is not a money thing really, I bought it because I wanted to know more and save it from elimination. Having a C6th for understanding and experimentation sounds nice.
I have a single neck (3p/4k)rack and barrel Shobud for dragging around, this is the practice at home setup.
I did have one gentleman tell me not to because it would never be a double once those parts are removed again. That bothered me, having seen many items destroyed with good intentions and bad execution.
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Ken Pippus
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Langford, BC, Canada
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Posted 28 Aug 2014 10:32 am
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| I agree with the gentleman. They're not making any more of those, and I think it's a shame to defile a fifty year old instrument. |
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Jim Kolman
From:
New York, USA
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Posted 28 Aug 2014 10:38 am
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I just read an older post on this and have too much respect for Mr. Yahl and Mr. Moorehead to do it.
I am going to follow my own advise when a guitar player asks me about hotrodding an instrument.
Play it as is, or sell it and buy what you want.
Still some work left on this steel , but I have learned tons about the mechanics and adjustments in the process. I thank everyone on the forum for their notes and comments here. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 28 Aug 2014 11:49 am
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If you're saying that you're short on parts for making both necks fully functional, and that you're not currently a C6th player, I'd suggest:
leaving the changer, keyhead and neck in place¹;
borrowing racks and knees from the back neck to make the front neck all that you desire;
hooking up at least pedals 5-7 on the back neck to get you started (they're the most important ones to most of us), and;
adding the rest of the stuff to complete it as funds and motivation allow. The C6th neck is fun.
I can't speak to value, but I'd say that it's better to have what's under there clean and functional and eventually supplemented to current standards as a D-10 than to have it converted.
I'd also say that posterity doesn't own this guitar, you do.
Regarding the "defile an instrument", nonsense. Better to have a playable restored SD than a decrepit D-10 under a bed somewhere. They were built to be PLAYED, and getting one back in playable condition is a good thing.
Oh, and pics?
¹That bit rarely gets reinstated once converted
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Paddy Long
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Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 28 Aug 2014 3:31 pm
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With the wonderful Shobud parts available from both Michael and James, I would take your time and upgrade to newer parts as you can afford it... and then you will end up with a perfectly functional D10 you can be proud of ... I hate seeing guitars butchered and believe it devalues them considerably.
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Damir Besic
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Nashville,TN.
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Posted 30 Aug 2014 11:00 pm
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trade it for SD-10 guitar, I'm sure there is guys out there who will trade you SD-10 for your D-10, and depending on the deal, you might even get some cash with the guitar... there is a gentleman right now on the forum looking to trade a nice SD-10 Carter for D-10...
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 31 Aug 2014 1:14 am
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well I'll go the other route.
Making it an SD10 is not a problem as long as you KEEP and CAN put the lower ten parts back on .
Considering the condition of the guitar as stated , every part as well as the changer needs to come off for full cleaning/restoration anyway... It's still a D10 as long as you still have all the parts.
The big picture for these old Sho Buds is to get them out and on the bandstand. Rebuild the E9th, go out and play. Remove and clean the C6th changer and parts, acquire the additional parts needed to one day bring the Steel back to D10, if needed. Keep them stored for later use. They are not for sale.
Why would it never be a D10 again if the parts are removed and maintained ? Who said that ?
All the parts need to come off and the changer needs to be taken apart....
Get that round front Professional back on the bandstand !
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Kevin Raymer
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Chalybeate, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 31 Aug 2014 1:47 pm
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You gotta do what fits your situation.
Time, Work, Potential, investment, ultimate value....
All things you gotta figure in.
No disrespect to anyone or anything, but not every old instrument is a potential museum piece.
Once you refinish and retool, you got a made over hybrid and it's worth what it's worth.
Bottom line.
You gotta do what's right for you.
Whether you sell the extra parts to defer you investment or keep them in hopes of a restoration some day, it's all your call.
I'm fer'ya not agin'ya brother do whatcha gotta do...
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