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Topic: Nylon tuning nuts |
Stephen Williams
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from Wales now in Berkeley,Ca, USA
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Posted 7 Jul 2014 9:24 pm |
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| First time build: If I have a 3/8" finger width, what size nylon tuning nuts/rods would I need? |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 7 Jul 2014 9:30 pm
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Pull rods range from 1/8" down to 5/64.
I know the smaller ones make for a lighter guitar, but I kinda like the solidity of 1/8" stainless.
Nuts are almost always 3/16" outside, with a hole slightly smaller than the rod (the threaded rod cuts the nylon nuts)
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Stephen Williams
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from Wales now in Berkeley,Ca, USA
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Posted 9 Jul 2014 4:17 pm
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Thanks. looks like i'll go with 1/8" stainless threaded rods with, I assume 40 threads per inch.
I guess the nylon tuning nuts are because you can't fit any other type of nut on....you would not get clearance for tightening. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 9 Jul 2014 5:40 pm
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Brass barrels like Sho-Bud is nearly the only other all-pull solution I've seen in use.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Les Cargill
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Oklahoma City, Ok, USA
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Posted 9 Jul 2014 7:09 pm
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| Stephen Williams wrote: |
Thanks. looks like i'll go with 1/8" stainless threaded rods with, I assume 40 threads per inch.
I guess the nylon tuning nuts are because you can't fit any other type of nut on....you would not get clearance for tightening. |
I don't think clearance has much to do with it. I am sure you could make tuning nuts of any sort of metal. It'd certainly stop you ( or at least slow you down ) from over-tightening.
But I imagine metal tuning nuts would wear the threaded rod end. The tuning nuts seem to be sacrificial material. |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 13 Jul 2014 7:55 am
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| Stephen Williams wrote: |
Thanks. looks like i'll go with 1/8" stainless threaded rods with, I assume 40 threads per inch.
I guess the nylon tuning nuts are because you can't fit any other type of nut on....you would not get clearance for tightening. |
No, the nylon nuts are used because they're cheap, they function well, and because they can be made easily to any length. Metal locknuts are made with the same size external hex, but they're more expensive, and can only be had in one (short) length, and that length isn't long enough to support a spinner. (They probably would wear the rod threads more, too.) I have a few on one of my old guitars, but they don't work as well as the long nylon nuts. |
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Dave Potter
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Texas
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Posted 14 Jul 2014 3:16 pm
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| No, the nylon nuts are used because they're cheap. |
The ones I've seen offered for sale sure weren't what I'd call cheap, considering their intrinsic value. CheapER than an alternative, maybe, but, nonetheless ... |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 14 Jul 2014 4:42 pm
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| Dave, they're about a nickel each when bought in bulk. However, most people that sell them charge about fifty cents each...because charging less makes it not even worth their time to fill the orders. |
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