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Topic: Cant tune my 3rd string with the B pedal. |
Zach Chastain
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Georgia, USA
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Posted 12 Jul 2014 12:50 pm |
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I just changed my strings for the first time on my guitar and have everything tuned including pedals and knees except the 3rd string B pedal. When I adjust the pedal nut the open tuning goes up with it. And when I tune the open string back down the pedal goes down with it. So open and B pedal down stay in the same spot and are incapable of being tuned. Any ideas? Everything was working and tuning fine before.
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richard burton
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Posted 12 Jul 2014 1:15 pm
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I don't know what this 'pedal nut' that you are adjusting is, but the correct way to tune your steel, which has a pull-release mechanism, is as follows:
Press and hold the 'B' pedal down.
Tune the third and sixth strings to A, using the machine heads at the headstock.
Release the 'B' pedal.
Tune the third and sixth strings to G# using the screws in the changer endplate. |
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Zach Chastain
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 12 Jul 2014 1:19 pm
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| I'm talking about the changer nuts that you turn to adjust pedals and knees. And I don't have screws on my changer it is just a Carter starter |
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Russ Wever
From:
Kansas City
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Posted 12 Jul 2014 2:17 pm
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| richard burton wrote: |
| I don't know what this 'pedal nut' that you are adjusting is . . . |
'pedal nut' would be the nylon tuner located
within the 'tuning window' of the endplate.
| richard burton wrote: |
| . . . your steel, which has a pull-release mechanism. . . |
Zachs guitar (Carter Starter) has an 'all-pull' changer, not 'pull-release'.
Zach, the first thing I would suspect is that you may inadvertently have
an 'out-of-range' string gauge on there. It should preferably be an .011
or .012, even an .010.
The amount of 'pedal travel' is pre-determined by the design of the guitar
and not user-adjustable.
The 'lowering blade' of the changer-finger is
held captive by the 'stop-bar' (unlike strings that lower).
These two facts prevent two of the most common problems:
Misadjusted little pedal-travel and/or return-spring failure/misadjustment.
About the only other thing that comes to mind would be if the third-strings
pull-rod had gotten relocated to a different hole in the B-pedals bell-crank.
~Russ
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Zach Chastain
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 12 Jul 2014 6:59 pm
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| Thanks for the help Russ I'm sure I put the right gauge string it was a .011. But I'll check again and I'll check the rod and make sure nothing has happened to it. |
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Russ Wever
From:
Kansas City
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Posted 12 Jul 2014 8:28 pm
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With no pedals/knees pressed, visually check to be certain that the 'raise blade', as
well as the 'string finger' (the very part that the string secures to) are assuming the
same relative 'at rest' position as the other nine.
If it is not, chances are that the nylon tuner is screwed in too far.
Turn the nylon tuner counter-clockwise and as you do so, you should see the 'raise
blade' (and string finger) return to its normal 'at rest' position, like the other nine.
Then with the nylon tuner 'backed away' from contact with the 'raise blade', you
ought be able to tune the string to G# then re-adjust the nylon tuner (with the
B pedal down) and regain the A-note setting.
This condition is referred to as 'overtuned'.
~Russ
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Zach Chastain
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 12 Jul 2014 8:31 pm
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| Thanks that was it I had it tightened all the way down. Thanks for the help. |
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Les Cargill
From:
Oklahoma City, Ok, USA
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Posted 12 Jul 2014 9:26 pm
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| Zach Chastain wrote: |
| Thanks that was it I had it tightened all the way down. Thanks for the help. |
This actually has a name - overtuning - and we've all
done it. |
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 13 Jul 2014 12:29 am
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Sorry, my mistake.
I'd confused this post with the post about the Miller steel, one poster is called Zachari, and the other is called Zach, and, with only a cursory glance, I thought it was the same person.
I can understand how my post would cause confusion to a Carter Starter owner  |
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Wayne Quinn
From:
Cape Breton.NovaScotia
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Posted 14 Jul 2014 8:21 am
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I had talked to Micky Adams a month ago about changing the strings all at once on my [ Mullen ]. his opinion was it does not hurt anything . other than letting the changer re-acclimate to the tension after you restring . takes around 2 hours or so for that and with Mickeys rebuilding experience I am confident in what he is saying. 
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