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Topic: What currently made guitar is most like a Zumsteel? |
Bill Duncan
From:
Lenoir, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2014 4:10 pm |
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What pedal steel guitar being made today is most like the Zumsteel?
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Steve Pawlak
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2014 4:21 pm
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I'll go with the obvious and say a Zumsteel  |
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Mike Spaeth
From:
Springdale, Arkansas
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Posted 22 Jun 2014 5:02 pm re
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Ah but the key words are" being made today"  |
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Niels Andrews
From:
Salinas, California, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2014 6:48 pm
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No longer made is the key! That is why I just picked up a Zumsteel S-12 made in 2005, but now I know why they are so highly thought of.
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Good Stuff like Zum S-12, Wolfe Resoport
MSA SS-12, Telonics Combo. |
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Jason Putnam
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2014 7:04 pm
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I would say the closest you can get and buy new is the encore. It has pro level zum mechanics. Otherwise, used zum is only option.
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Kevin Raymer
From:
Chalybeate, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2014 7:51 pm
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I fear it is sad to say that there just aren't any..
I guess that's why the last one listed here lasted less than 8 hours.
I searched every Craig's list in the United States and only found ONE for sale.
I know Craig's List ain't exactly a steel guitar clearing house, but.....
Just sayin....
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Kevin Raymer
Zum / Knaggs / Breedlove
Fractal Audio |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 22 Jun 2014 8:43 pm
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The Justice looks and feels pretty close. Haven't played one through my rig. Not sure how deep the resemblance goes.
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Ron Whitworth
From:
Yuma,Ariz.USA Yeah they say it's a DRY heat !!
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Posted 23 Jun 2014 2:19 am
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Here's 2 more to think about >
Frank Carter's Infinity or
Gary Rittenberry's latest Rittenberry -
I forgot the name of his latest model but
2 more great guitars to choose from.
Ron
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We need to turn the TWANG up a little
It's not what you play through, it's what you play through it.
They say that tone is all in the fingers...I say it is all in your head
Some of the best pieces of life are the little pieces all added up..Ron
the value of friendship. Old friends shine like diamonds, you can always call them and - most important - you can't buy them. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 23 Jun 2014 2:20 am
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| I don't think there are any. Just like "what guitar sounds like an Emmons PP" - NONE. Or what guitar sounds like a Franklin - NONE. |
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Peter Nylund
From:
Finland
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Niels Andrews
From:
Salinas, California, USA
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Posted 23 Jun 2014 6:38 am
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Well Ron, unless you know something I don't, Frank at Infinity is not taking any more orders as of last month, and Gary would not build an S-12. I think the only people building an S-12 are MSA and Mullen. Maybe GFI?
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Die with Memories. Not Dreams.
Good Stuff like Zum S-12, Wolfe Resoport
MSA SS-12, Telonics Combo. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 23 Jun 2014 6:43 am
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Jerry Fessenden will build a 12, last I heard.
Given the association with Zane King, and descended from Beck, I bet Dan Burnham at BMI does.
There was a thread a while ago about who makes 12s.
But nobody is gonna mistake a BMI for a Zum. Fessys seem built in the same basic style, but I can't speak for their similarity to the Zum, I've only spent an hour or so behind one of Jerry's guitars
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Bill Duncan
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Lenoir, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 23 Jun 2014 7:10 am
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I am asking more of the action than looks and sound. I've only tried one Zum and the pedal throw seemed incredibly short, and light.
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Marco Schouten
From:
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 23 Jun 2014 10:04 am
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Williams would probably build an S12.
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Tom Campbell
From:
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 23 Jun 2014 10:59 am
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| Check the Rittenberry site...there is a SD12 built for Del Walters. |
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Dick Wood
From:
Springtown Texas, USA
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Posted 23 Jun 2014 11:26 am
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I own a Williams and have looked at the Zum top and bottom and think they are very close in many ways.
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Niels Andrews
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Salinas, California, USA
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Posted 23 Jun 2014 11:33 am
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I didn't say Rittenberry never built one. But he said no to a 12 string in Dallas.
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Die with Memories. Not Dreams.
Good Stuff like Zum S-12, Wolfe Resoport
MSA SS-12, Telonics Combo. |
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Ronald Moore
From:
Mindoro, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 23 Jun 2014 2:46 pm
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| I own a Zumsteel S-12 and a Williams S-12. Both are great guitars. I don't prefer one over the other. nuff said. |
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Damir Besic
From:
Nashville,TN.
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Ron Whitworth
From:
Yuma,Ariz.USA Yeah they say it's a DRY heat !!
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Posted 23 Jun 2014 4:09 pm
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To answer a few here:
Bill - I still stand by what I said above>
Frank Carter's Infinity or
Gary Rittenberry's Prestige Model
These naturally will not sound the exact same as a Zum
but they are getting a LOT of attention for some reason?
Niels - I know nothing about how busy each of the builders are as I have not spoke to either of them since the Dallas show
but I also did not know Bill was talking about a S-12 when I made the recommendation.
My best to everyone - buy what you like - just making a suggestion was all.
Ron
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"Tone is in the hands. Unless your wife will let you buy a new amp. Then it's definitely in that amp."
We need to turn the TWANG up a little
It's not what you play through, it's what you play through it.
They say that tone is all in the fingers...I say it is all in your head
Some of the best pieces of life are the little pieces all added up..Ron
the value of friendship. Old friends shine like diamonds, you can always call them and - most important - you can't buy them. |
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Chris Robbins
From:
Biggsville Illinois
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Posted 23 Jun 2014 4:20 pm
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| A good friend of mine has two Zum steels which are fantastic guitars,he was blown away with the new Justice D10 I just got. |
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Mike Wilson
From:
Mansfield, Ohio, USA
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Posted 24 Jun 2014 3:36 am
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| In my opinion, I would have to say the Justice guitars are closest to a Zum. Maybe a Mullen G2 for the pedal action. I think the pedal action on the G2 is better than any guitar made today, though. But, you know what they say about opinions. |
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John Palumbo
From:
Lansdale, PA.
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Posted 24 Jun 2014 5:12 pm
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| I'm not 100 % sure but I believe the undercarriage of a Williams guitar (which I do own) is very similar to that of a Zum. The cross rods mount to a continuous metal plate on the inside of the front apron and on the rear apron the cross rods mount directly to the wood body in delrin bearings and both the Williams and the Zum having a removable access bar at the outside of the rear apron. |
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