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Topic: replacement tuners |
Peter Leavenworth
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Madbury, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2014 4:14 am |
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| I just broke another Kluson tuner on my Emmons p/p low A string on the C6 neck (.068 - .070). Now I'm considering replacing all the tuners with a better gear ratio and maybe with locking tuners. Anyone have relevant experience or advice? |
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Kevin Raymer
From:
Chalybeate, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2014 4:31 am
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I'll share what I was told by a devout Emmons push pull player.
"Never change the tuners on an Emmons PP with anything except what came on it."
The guy told me it will change/ruin the tone.
I have no experience with it but that's what I was told..
FWIW
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Kevin Raymer
Zum / Knaggs / Breedlove
Fractal Audio |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2014 6:34 am
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| I've replaced tuners on several Emmons p/p's and I get them from www.stewmac.com |
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Bill L. Wilson
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2014 6:57 am The Keys.
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| I believe Steve Fishel, has Klusons on his Zum, even though it's an all-pull guitar. And I think if anyone has a discerning ear, it would be Steve.....Superb Tone from him too. |
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Peter Leavenworth
From:
Madbury, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2014 7:53 am
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| Erv, did you replace them with Klusons or something else? Thanks |
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Tommy White
From:
Nashville
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Posted 19 Jul 2014 8:04 am
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Our friend Billy Knowles will have or know where to get genuine
Kluson replacement tuners, as he replaced the keys on my ZB custom
with new Klusons
when he restored it to original. |
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Jerry Jones
From:
Franklin, Tenn.
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Kevin Raymer
From:
Chalybeate, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2014 7:52 pm
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One of my Zums has kluson style tuners on it.
However they are Grover brand tuners..
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Kevin Raymer
Zum / Knaggs / Breedlove
Fractal Audio |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2014 6:19 am
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Peter,
I believe they were Gotoh. |
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 20 Jul 2014 8:22 pm
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my old zum has klusons also and sounds great. bruce z. thought they enhanced the tone also. he probably found it easier to use more modern tuners later because some of the klusons were pretty sloppy and had to be replaced. i wouldn't put anything different on mine though.
now on the other hand, i have an old emmons p/p that a certain person changed out to older mini-grovers...and it sounds fabulous. |
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Eric Dahlhoff
From:
Point Arena, California
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Posted 20 Jul 2014 9:47 pm kluson
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These guys are making the new Klusons
http://www.kluson.com/tuning_machines.html
But you have to buy 6 at a time.
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Jerry Jones
From:
Franklin, Tenn.
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Walter Bowden
From:
Wilmington, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 21 Jul 2014 2:46 pm
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Those Kluson tulip head keys seem a bit pricy to me. I replaced the tuners on my Emmons S10 p/p with Gotoh vintage tuners and other than using an awl to slightly enlargen the screw holes in the tuners, they were easy to mount and use the original screws with no modifying the keyhead at all. Just be careful not to crossthread the mounting screws when screwing them into the keyhead. Plus, they were a bit cheaper than the Klusons and I only had one neck to change out. Best wishes, Walter
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Emmons S10, p/p, Nashville 112, Zion 50 tele style guitar, Gibson LP Classic w/Vox AC30, Fender Deluxe De Ville and a Rawdon-Hall classical |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 1:46 pm
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| What kind of locking tuners? The Sperzels I use on my 6-strings would be tough to use, I would think. Might have a hard time operating the "tension" wheels? Not enough room? |
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Peter Leavenworth
From:
Madbury, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2014 2:53 am replacement tuners
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Thanks for all the suggestions and information. I'm temporarily replacing the one tuner with a used Kluson and will replace them all, probably with Gotohs, when I overhaul my D-10 this fall.
Peter |
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