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Topic: "Muted string sound"- is it coming from the steel? |
Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Posted 4 Apr 2014 11:46 pm
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There could be a guitar player to the right or left, who wasn't filmed. So it must be the steel player doing this, but I'm not sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh02Yju_vVo _________________ Fender Kingman, Sierra Crown D-10, Evans Amplifier, Soup Cube. |
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Fred Amendola
From: Lancaster, Pa.
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Posted 5 Apr 2014 4:00 am Crawford
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That's most likely Jimmie Crawford playing his famous rolls. C6. So cool.
There's also a YouTube up there of "Movin On" with a blistering E9 solo. Jimmie's playin an Emmons there, so it might be a little later than your clip. Not sure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9yTqFWxHpA
Enjoy |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 5 Apr 2014 4:57 am
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Yep, that's muted steel! You can tell by the chords used, and also by his transitions to "unmuted" when they modulate. I do the same technique with my palm, but also use a comb or Sharpie sometimes (for a bar) when I want a really muted, but sharper (banjo-like) sound. Works great on the fast bluegrass stuff, like Rocky-Top. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 5 Apr 2014 5:46 am
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What Donny said. You get that by anchoring the karate chop part of the hand just on the edge of the fingers (the changer fingers, you don't have to hold your own hand), and experiment rolling it to either more or less muting. It's challenging, but kinda fun.
Bonus trick if you like Buck Trent: hit the strings thusly muted, and quickly roll back off to let the decay ring brighter. Tiring after one song, tiresome after two in a row, but kinda fun. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Posted 5 Apr 2014 8:10 am
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I had my steel set up in the wrong room today (coming home from one of the few gigs I have), and not in the place where my computer is.
I'm gonna drag it over tomorrow and try it, but I doubt that I'll find the right notes (Fred said it's on C6, that's good hint!) or execute the technique.
Thanks anyway! _________________ Fender Kingman, Sierra Crown D-10, Evans Amplifier, Soup Cube. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 5 Apr 2014 10:44 am
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The drop of the low note from 3 on I to 7 on IV can happen (sadly without the bendy sound] by playing at the 8th fret, with the Es lowered for G and moving from lowered 8 to the 9th string. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Posted 6 Apr 2014 12:57 am
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4.-----2-----2------2------2------2-----2------2----2
5.----2----2------2------2------2-----2------2-----2
6.-------2-------------2------------2-------------2
7.-2-----------2-------------2------------2------
C6th
This is the picking pattern I came up with, it's probably not exact, but good for practice.
I think I also saw his bar hand on the second fret when the song starts in D. So at least the bar position is right. _________________ Fender Kingman, Sierra Crown D-10, Evans Amplifier, Soup Cube. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 6 Apr 2014 1:11 am
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My bad. I remembered seeing Hank hit the G chord, and recalled it as 1.
On E9, I'd play in D at third fret with Es lowered, and if Joachim had it right, use strings 10, 8,7&6 instead of 7-4 _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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