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Topic: The First Carter? |
Stephen Cordingley
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted 20 Feb 2014 11:40 am |
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I have a question relating to the "How to date a Carter" thread.
If Carters were made from 1992 on, would a serial number beginning with 90012 be the first Carter "off the line"?
I have said guitar with a couple curious oddities:
a) the serial number appears to have been stamped twice (as if they hadn't got the stamping perfected yet?)
b) the pedals are black instead of the usual silver
Could I have the "first" Carter?
Would that make it anything other than just old? (Do "vintage" steels have any "cache," or are they just more worn out and dinged up than a nice, new, shiny, modern made steel?)
Any info/opinions? |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 20 Feb 2014 1:18 pm
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Only early Bud, Emmonses and Bigsbys have collector status. Which is a good thing.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 20 Feb 2014 3:56 pm
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but to have the first carter is neat. they probably would have been in a constant state of change and development. it might even have some special quality
that sets it apart in a good way. i consisider good working old steels to be vintage collectables. just not necessarily high dollar.
consider also that bud carter worked for so many steel builders, and this company had his name on it. so there is a little historical connection to the steel building world.
keep in mind that in the world there are 1000's of steels. that's not many even compared to millions of guitars. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 20 Feb 2014 5:13 pm
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Chris, I agree on the cool factor. But I maintain that it's a VERY good thng that few steels are in the 5 figure range. Musical instruments should not be out of the reach of pickers.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 20 Feb 2014 5:19 pm
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| agreed! |
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David Higginbotham
From:
Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2014 6:00 pm
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I'd like to see some detailed pics for comparison to later Carter models.
Last edited by David Higginbotham on 21 Feb 2014 5:45 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Bill Duncan
From:
Lenoir, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 21 Feb 2014 3:54 am
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I evidently believe all pedal steels to be collectors. I just buy them and never sell any.
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Stephen Cordingley
From:
Ontario, Canada
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Posted 21 Feb 2014 7:20 pm The First Carter? pics
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Here are some pics:
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Stephen Cordingley
From:
Ontario, Canada
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Posted 21 Feb 2014 7:23 pm some more pics
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a couple more pics: I don't know if I captured the details you were looking for |
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Chris Johnson
From:
USA
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Posted 21 Feb 2014 9:22 pm
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| Wow!! Definitely some differences from my Carter. Bet it sounds great. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 22 Feb 2014 12:22 am
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Don't know about it being the first (could be), but look at the knee lever stops. A lot different than they were later. Outside of that and the black pedals, it looks pretty much like the one I have (1999). It would be interesting to know the history of this guitar.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 22 Feb 2014 4:40 am
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| Interesting to see the half-stop finger at the endplate. Apparently this great idea was built into Carters from the beginning--I'd thought it was an evolutionary development later on (I'd thought that for no reason at all). |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 22 Feb 2014 10:23 am
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| i think it was evolutionary in bud carter's universe and manifested itself in straight manufacture with the carter. |
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 22 Feb 2014 10:39 am
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| I would love to see a comprehensive Bud Carter innovation timeline. I've started a thread. |
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