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Jimmie Misenheimer

 

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Bloomington, Indiana - U. S. A.
Post  Posted 7 Feb 2014 7:13 pm    
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If you had asked me, I would have laughed and said "Knewww, ain't no way they could do that!". I saw it tonight. I was at the Am Leg with my lady-friend, although not for the music - as I already knew what that was going to be like - a less than "able" band. It was about what I would expect up until they decided to play "Wipe Out". I would have known what they were playing without being told (maybe), but before it was over, 8 to 10 of them cats was trying to LINE DANCE to it!! You ain't seen nothin' till you've seen that! I gave up at 9:20, and came home - I'm goin' to bed... Jimmie
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Don R Brown


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Post  Posted 7 Feb 2014 8:20 pm    
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If they paid their money and were having fun, what's the problem? As long as they didn't demand that you join them who cares?

"My type of music is the only proper type, my type of dancing is the only proper type......" Laughing
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 7 Feb 2014 8:32 pm    
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That would have been a funny site.
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Tommy Minniear

 

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Logansport, Indiana
Post  Posted 8 Feb 2014 7:11 am    
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Jimmie,
Sounds pitiful and I trust your judgment...that being said, you made the right choice!
Glad to see you on here again!

Tommy
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William Jackson

 

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Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 8 Feb 2014 8:07 am    
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Chicken!!
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chris ivey


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california (deceased)
Post  Posted 8 Feb 2014 9:26 am    
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you miss the point that these legionaires are having fun, staying healthy . that's why they have a little band there.

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Bud Angelotti


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Larryville, NJ, USA
Post  Posted 8 Feb 2014 10:44 am    
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Pictures ... We need pictures Shocked
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Dustin Rigsby


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Post  Posted 8 Feb 2014 11:53 pm    
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Well Jimmie, at least they weren't playing Johnny Couger ......or was they Laughing
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Herb Steiner

 

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Spicewood TX 78669
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 9:45 am    
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Reminds me of when line dancing first became popular, around 1980 or so. I was visiting my folks in Los Angeles, and went to a "country" nightclub... a cleaned-up version of the joints I used to play there... for diversion and to visit with an old friend who was waitressing there at the time.

The live band was good, and the audience was line dancing to EVERY FREAKIN' SONG, without exception. My waitress friend came over and said "so, look Herb! We're dancing just like in Texas!" I had to reply "Well, uh... not really. In Texas folks country dance ballroom style, boy-girl, face-to-face, 2-steps, swing, waltzes, stuff like that."

"But our dance instructor told us this is how people dance in Texas!?!?" She looked a little dejected. Sad

Finally, the band kicked off "Today I Started Loving You Again," Haggard-style, flat-top guitar only, r-e-a-l sloooooowww, and I figured hey, nobody can line dance THIS slow.

Wrong again, honey. Wink It was a Bob Fosse dance routine done in 1/4-time slow motion, like Sam Peckinpah filmed a Radio City Rockettes performance. Laughing It was bizarre to watch, seriously.

Back in the day, like when I arrived in TX in '72, there was a line dance in here called the "Four Corners," and maybe once or twice a month at a show I'd see 3 or 4 wallflower girls get to the front of the stage and do this thing on a song or two. I don't know how it all took off, except for maybe the Urban Cowboy flick. Of course, now it and its gazillion variations are so commonplace it's no big deal. In the end game, it's just people out and enjoying themselves, and that's what we as musicians have accepted as our mandate. This is the business we have chosen.
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Clyde Mattocks

 

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Kinston, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 10:11 am    
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Similar experience to Herb's when line dancing robots took over the club scene. We got fired from a club in Greensboro for playing a slow song. (The dance floor actually filled up with people dancing one on one when we did). the owner was a dance instructor who wanted us to play ALL line dance stuff so he and his subjects could show their stuff all night.
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Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 10:45 am    
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IMNO Some folks might object here when a critic tramples on the dignity of an artist or performer or for that matter a damaging critique of somewhat less than professional dancing. It's the equivalent of a written drive-by shooting.

Not that I mind or care. Just saying! Bottom line the right to criticize comes with a ticket purchase.

Having said all that I will now pour a very large cup of coffee in hopes it will get me through Herbs Dance Review. Laughing
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Herb Steiner

 

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Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 10:55 am    
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Stuart, please check out my upcoming "Dancing With The Stars" episode when it airs in your vicinity! Smile
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Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 11:21 am    
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Herb, we ran into that here in Los Angeles. To try to dance around the line dancers was like trying to skate past Joanie Weston.
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 1:22 pm    
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Used to play at a very nice, biiiig club. On Fridays they had line dance lessons before the band played. There'd be well over one hundred line dancers there. Billy Ray had "Achy Breaky" out, and of course there was a dance for it. They'd request it every set. I'd play it straight the first time, then play the solo backwards the second time. Chinese-sounding parallel fourths the third. Then the forth time, I'd get the band to add one extra beat at the end of the guitar solo. The results were hilarious,,, 100+ people crashing into one another, total confusion!
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Barry Blackwood


Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 2:44 pm    
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Pictures ... We need pictures

Don't get me started..


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In the end game, it's just people out and enjoying themselves, and that's what we as musicians have accepted as our mandate. This is the business we have chosen.


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Herb Steiner

 

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Spicewood TX 78669
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 2:52 pm    
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Barry Blackwood wrote:


And now guys like this control your life..



Well, actually... not me, per se. Smile I play with kids my own age and work almost exclusively now in western swing bands. Wink

But there are others amongst us who sadly must now bear the cross I abandoned so long ago and play a Mobius strip of straight 8th's into eternity for line dancers.
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Don R Brown


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Rochester, New York, USA
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 3:00 pm    
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John Billings wrote:
The results were hilarious,,, 100+ people crashing into one another, total confusion!


That sounds like some of the line dancing I've seen even WITHOUT the band doing anything screwy! Laughing

But if that's what pays the money to keep the venue open, so be it.
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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 3:03 pm     I've known some musicians that this story fits..........
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All my life, the bands I've played with have been truly professional and the players were older men, confident in their abilities and laid back.

On one occasion for a couple of years, I played with a group of guys that were largely self=taught. They printed out songs lists for each and every gig we played. They had band practices each week and after four hours of "Pretty Woman" I couldn't take it any longer.

They knew only about twenty songs and simply re-arranged them for the different sets.

These guys were sweating horrifically after about the second song and it only got worse as the evening went on. Seemed like there was more excitement in
'preparing' than in delivering.
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 3:10 pm    
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Don,
It was a great place to play, and for me, the best, because the owner loved my Tele playing. We Were very popular there. The club was big, I think about a 1,000 +person capacity, and when we played, the Fire Marshals were there to control entry. Sometimes we had more than 15/16 hundred peeps trying to get in! Good food too! The owner did ask me to stop screwing with the line dancers, and I complied. Let the shovel heads dance! They made him tons of moolah! The place closed years ago though. They had their own package sewage plant, and I think they might have run up against the EPA.
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Don R Brown


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Rochester, New York, USA
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 3:47 pm    
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John, I learned a few line dances and even remember a couple, but it had no appeal for me when the obsessive types had to come out with thousands of dances and wanted people to keep learning more and more. People packing the floor so you could not do a 2-step around the outside without getting knocked over. But if you're the bar owner, it's better to keep 80 line dancers happy than 4 or 5 couples trying to 2-step.

I also have gotten in trouble even when there are no line dancers. More than once my wife has got on my case because while we're dancing I'll be watching the steel player instead of paying attention to dancing with her! Laughing
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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 3:52 pm     Line Dancing..............
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It was okay with me but after playing BOOT SCOOTIN' BOOGIE for the twentieth time, I got bored.
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 3:59 pm    
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Yeah, Ray! That was another one that drove me crazy. Okay, once, maybe twice a night, but every set? Sometimes more requests than once per set.
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 4:04 pm    
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Then again, you got new club hoppers coming in at all times,,,, but it was frustrating. My only relief was playing Gatton and Donahue/Hellecasters break songs.
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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 4:06 pm     Huh?
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You high class musicians always know more than we home taught guys............


WHAT was that of which you speaketh?
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2014 4:16 pm    
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Ray,
I always did double duty, steel and Tele.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoeNOuaKBhQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwMh5rg8xC4

Break songs I loved playing! Can't play as fast as Jerry though
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