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Topic: Paddle for a GFI Knee Lever Available? |
Bob Kagy
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Lafayette, CO USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2014 1:53 pm |
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I've got a GFI U12 w/pad that has a RR knee lever in the back of the guitar. I need to extend its reach so I can move closer to the guitar and still use the RR (my RR lowers the 2 E's to D# and the 2nd string to C# and it needs to be held in when I'm in the B6th mode).
I'd like to find something that'll attach to a GFI knee lever and extend 3" further towards the front and still give me the leverage I need.
Anybody know of something that'll work?
Thanks, bk |
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Tommy Alexander
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Friendswood, Texas 77546
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Posted 29 Jan 2014 2:44 pm Attach something
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Bob,
haven't heard from you in a long time; that's ok, you did show up.
You might want to get in touch or email Zane King. He use's a 12string and he has a right arm lever that does something. I'd bet Zane can give you some information.
Keep in touch......
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Jack Wilson
From:
Marshfield, MO
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Posted 29 Jan 2014 2:47 pm knee lever paddle
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| Any GFI dealer can get you one. Also you can try Bob at GFI web site or call him |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 29 Jan 2014 2:58 pm
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From watching Zane play, $5 says the wrist lowers the middle G# to F#. I doubt I'd wanna hold it in for long periods.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Bob Kagy
From:
Lafayette, CO USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2014 3:20 pm
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Hi Tommy,
If it's a wrist lever I wouldn't want to go with that, but thanks. And I've been pretty busy adapting to a U12, still will be for a loong time.
Jack,
Bob at GFI says they don't make anything like a paddle. He suggested just moving the knee lever towards the front of the guitar, but it just doesn't look possible without bending a heckuva lot of stuff; I'd rather keep it simple; maybe a paddle would do that; have you seen one somewhere at a dealer?
Thanks very much for your replies.
bk |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 29 Jan 2014 3:30 pm
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I find it odd that GFI doesn't make flags (that's the more common name for them).
You could get a piece of 12 ga. aluminum and either screw it or have it welded to the lever.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Bob Kagy
From:
Lafayette, CO USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2014 4:45 pm
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Lane , i agree, I was surprised.
The aluminum sounds like a good material. To be able to fold the lever for getting the guitar into it's case is a factor so screws might be in play to remove it easily,
Thanks again,
bk |
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Jeff Metz Jr.
From:
York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2014 5:31 pm
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Take a look at the Emmon's solution. They have a Flag that looks like a right angle piece of aluminum that folds up to the existing lever. Should be an easy build.
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Mullen G2 SD10 , Lil Izzy Buffer, Goodrich 120 volume pedal, Boss DD-7, Peterson Strobo flip, Peavey Nashville 112 |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 29 Jan 2014 5:40 pm
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The Zum has a non-folding flag that doesn't interfere with folding.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Bob Kagy
From:
Lafayette, CO USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2014 5:48 pm
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Jeff,I took a look at the Emmons website and got into their "catalog". They've got a lot of stuff but I couldn't identify a flag anywhere. What do they call it?
Thanks
Lane, I thought Bruce was out of the business, I know he built Jeff Newman's U12 - does he still sell things like a flag? I'll look for a website later.
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Steve Spitz
From:
New Orleans, LA, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2014 5:55 pm Flags
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| GFI made flags when I had one. Gene Fields gave me one at the Dallas show. It was well done, slid on without any modification needed. |
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Bob Kagy
From:
Lafayette, CO USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2014 7:09 pm
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Hi Steve, BTW I'm originally from N.O. But is it possible you're referring to what they call wings in the GFI shop, only about 1 " or so wider than the lever? If so I have one, but it only extends backward towards the player on a right moving lever. It does the opposite on a left.
I hope I haven't mis understood your post, if so give me some grief, and I'll goback to GFI and ask what's going on.
Thanks,bk |
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Jim Priebe
From:
Queensland, Australia - R.I.P.
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Posted 29 Jan 2014 9:46 pm
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Bob
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Bob at GFI says they don't make anything like a paddle. He suggested just moving the knee lever towards the front of the guitar, but it just doesn't look possible without bending a heckuva lot of stuff; I'd rather keep it simple; maybe a paddle would do that |
I have a GFI S10 (no pad) which is setup as a "short" uni and also has keyless tuners so there's not much real estate for levers and Bob has managed to fit them all in. Send me a PM and I'll send a pic of the underside - might give you some ideas 'cos I think it can be done although it's pretty busy down there. I play with the E-Eb lever held in whenever I need it or I am using as B6th (RKR) with no problems.
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Jeff Metz Jr.
From:
York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Bob Kagy
From:
Lafayette, CO USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2014 7:37 am
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Jeff, good pictures - thanks. In my case the RR has a long throw so as I move it my knee ends up at about a 30 or 35 degree angle. I think it would end up on top of the flag and be hard to hold for long without getting painful. It's also on the low end of the lever and wouldn't seem to let me keep my right foot on the volume pedal. It's a good idea though.
Jim, I think you're right in that it would be possible to do it at the GFI shop, but I've spent a long time staring at the rodding, cross rods, changer location, pickup wiring, and cross rod stabilizers trying to find a place for it. Bottom line I don't think I want to live with the number of bent pull rods it would take to accomodate it. I could send you a picture of my undercarriage but the 12 string is already packed under there. Thanks for the offer though. |
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Bob Kagy
From:
Lafayette, CO USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2014 10:24 am
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I want to put a cap on this thread.
Nobody put any pressure on me to say the following -
I want to make it clear that my GFI U12 is a very good guitar in all respects. It's a keyless and I've never heard open strings sound so good and felt the action so tight. I can see and feel the amazing potential it has for me. I'm afraid focusing on this one annoyance for me is probably overshadowing the fact that Gene and Bob and the guys at GFI that set this guitar up for me went to great trouble in doing so including calling Bruce Zumsteg to work through some of the oddities of setting up a E9th/B6th uni. I have every respect for them and the guitars they make available to us.
I started the thread thinking that there might be a quick and easy solution for me but I think I'm developing an idea about how to cobble a fairly simple solution, so I'm going to start focusing on that. I'm determined to make it work.
I appreciate all the ideas and solutions offered by all of you. Thanks for going to the trouble.
bk |
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Steve Spitz
From:
New Orleans, LA, USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2014 12:44 pm Flag
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Bob,
Not sure weather to call it a flag or a paddle, but if I recall, it was wider than one inch. I lowered 4 strings with my RKR, ( 2 each E9 and C6) , at the Dallas show, Gene just walked up to me, and gave it to me. I never even asked for it, and it really helped ! Great guys, great service, and a great guitar. These guitars are real sleepers. Undervalued and under appreciated.[/i] |
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Bob Kagy
From:
Lafayette, CO USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2014 1:06 pm
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Steve,
I had one on my GFI D10 for the same reason you did. The actual slip on is wider than 1", around 2 1/4. After attaching I was just saying it gives you about that much more extension. I couldn't have done without it on my D10 and I agree with your comment about the GFI guys (I hope you noticed that in my last post).
Bob |
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