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Topic: Breaking strings, # 3 G#. .11 |
Brian Henry
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Posted 5 Feb 2014 1:21 pm |
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I have an 8 string schecter lap steel with a 28" scale and am breaking the 3 string repeatedly when tuning . It has a brass nut an d the break occurs between the tuners and the nut. I am trying to tune it to e9th. Could it be such a long scale that is causing it, or what. Any ideas are most welcome
Brian
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2014 1:55 pm
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| Are you saying your 3rd string is gauged at 11 on a steel guitar? |
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Brad Bechtel
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Posted 5 Feb 2014 2:21 pm
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You're playing a modified Schechter Hellraiser guitar converted for lap style playing, and your third string is breaking when tuning to E9th tuning. Okay - to what specific note are you trying to tune the string?
Since it's a long scale (28") guitar, it's very possible that you're stretching the string past the point it's designed to handle. Without knowing what specific note you're attempting to reach, it's hard to say what's going on.
As an aside - it may tune up better once you put the tuner back in the hole. 
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2014 2:29 pm
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It seems he's attempting to tune a rock guitar for steel using standard guitar gauges, never gonna happen.
Brian, your smallest string should be gauged around 16 on an actual steel guitar, steel guitar strings are much heavier than standard. |
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Brian Henry
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Posted 5 Feb 2014 3:47 pm
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Thank you Ron and Brad,
The third is a .11 gauge and I was trying to get it up to G# I used an E9th pedal set of strings except I didn't use Strings 7 F# and strings 9 D . So what I have left is the 8 strings of e9th. The sustain with this 28" scale is out of this world, but I just keep breaking .11 strings when I. Get it up to an e... A long way from a G#
I do not know c6th tuning. What do you suggest I do to stay with an e9th lap tuning.?
Many thanks for you help
Brian
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Brad Bechtel
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Posted 5 Feb 2014 3:52 pm
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| Brian Henry wrote: |
Thank you Ron and Brad,
The third is a .11 gauge and I was trying to get it up to G# I used an E9th pedal set of strings except I didn't use Strings 7 F# and strings 9 D . So what I have left is the 8 strings of e9th. The sustain with this 28" scale is out of this world, but I just keep breaking .11 strings when I. Get it up to an e... A long way from a G# |
Try something much lighter, then. The longest string scale I see regularly is 25". It's interesting that the third string is breaking, but not the first or second strings. What gauges are those?
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Ron Whitfield
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Posted 5 Feb 2014 5:07 pm
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| If that steel plays as cool as it looks then godspeed on the string issue and let's hear it. |
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Brian Henry
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Posted 5 Feb 2014 5:23 pm
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Thank you, the first string is .13 and is tuned to F#. The second string is .15 and tuned to a d#. As yo suggest I will try and get some .09 gauge and see if it works. Once again, many thanks.
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Brian Henry
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Posted 5 Feb 2014 5:25 pm
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I forgot to mention that I bought the guitar body with fixed neck, and have added what you see. It was touted for a floyd rose tremelo so I had to do a bit of work. I am still waiting the volume and tone control and the jack.
Brian
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Eddie Rivers
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Texas, USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2014 5:27 pm
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| That long scale is the problem.I tried everything to get a high G# on my fender,and that only 26 in.,all the way down to a .09 string,and found it just can't be done.On my 59 Fender 1000 I had to change the tuning to D9,so the high string is F#.Takes a little getting used to but works fine that way. |
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Rich Sullivan
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Posted 5 Feb 2014 5:51 pm
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| I need to clarify the string gages as they were described. Sorry, this is just to satisfy my anal machinist background. Gages which were listed as .09, ,11, ,13, and .15 should be listed as .009, .011, .013, and .015. These numbers are the actual diameter of the string (in inches), and are read in thousandths. So for example, .009 would be read as "nine thousandths", .011 would be read as eleven thousandths, etc. (Now I feel better.) |
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Brian Henry
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Posted 5 Feb 2014 6:08 pm
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Thank you Eddie I might just do that and maybe even go down to c9th. Rich thank you for explains about the meaning of the gauges, I always wondered what they meant.
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