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basilh


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 9:50 am    
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How is this possible:- my (1970 serial # 1340D) Emmons PP fatback has George l's fitted from the day it was made ? And how come a 1970 guitar has 1980 model knee levers, and they were fitted when the guitar was built ?



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richard burton


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 10:10 am    
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And how come the E9 tuning is on the back neck, in 1970 steels didn't even have a back neck ?
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 10:12 am    
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Those aren't Emmons knee levers.
They look something like ZB knee levers.
There are other things under the hood that don't look right, either.

Richard,
Are you trying to be funny when you said that in 1970 they didn't have back necks?


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basilh


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 10:15 am    
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Nah !! Richard I jest not, there IS an logical answer to my questions..And on that guitar the tunings are A7 on the near neck and E9th added 6th on the far, or top neck. FWIW..

http://www.waikiki-islanders.com/assets/basilPsg8StrTuning.pdf
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basilh


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 10:19 am    
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Erv, the knee levers..FACTORY fitted when the guitar was FIRST assembled,
I think I DID say that..
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Mike Sweeney


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 10:38 am    
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George L's wasn not making pickups in 1970 either. As a matter of fact the company wasn't even in business yet.
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 10:59 am    
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Basilh,
Yes, but WHAT factory! Whoa!
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basilh


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 10:59 am    
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Emmons..What year should be the question..
The real question is how can that be possible, without a time machine ?
There is an answer..
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 11:01 am    
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If I read it right, you SAID 1970. Rolling Eyes
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basilh


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 11:11 am    
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Yeah maybe a bit ambiguous with
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my 1970 Emmons PP fatback (serial # 1340D)

But that's the year the serial number gives. ??

My other Emmons that has a 1970 serial number also, (1415D) has white fretboards and a twin coil on the E9th neck and single on the C6th
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basilh


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 11:47 am    
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The Original George L's Steel Guitar Pickup! Comes with a 5 positon switch for plenty of tonal combinations!

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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 12:23 pm    
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Made late from NOS endplates?
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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 12:47 pm    
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 1:02 pm    
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There are a lot of non-Emmons parts on the undercarriage. It does have Emmons bell cranks, but there are a few large brass collars that are not Emmons, and the wiring to the control plate is not like any Emmons wiring I've ever seen. Methinks someone's been cobbling.
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basilh


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 1:02 pm    
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Lane Gray wrote:
Made late from NOS endplates?

I believe so..
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basilh


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 1:06 pm    
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Doug Beaumier wrote:
There are a lot of non-Emmons parts on the undercarriage. It does have Emmons bell cranks, but there are a few large brass collars that are not Emmons, and the wiring to the control plate is not like any Emmons wiring I've ever seen. Methinks someone's been cobbling.

The wiring is for the two five position PU switches, as for the brass collars, I did that when I put on a few of my own fettled halfstops.
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 3:07 pm    
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that must be the british version. which side is the steering wheel on?


i've got an early 70's d10 with a serial # so high it's off the emmons chart. anybody seen anything like that? i figured it was a replacement end plate after the guitar was damaged.
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basilh


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 3:20 pm    
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I have two D-10 PPs and the serial numbers date them as :- 1970 1340D (January 1970) and 1415D (July ? 1970)



The 1340D is a direct purchase NEW by myself from the factory in 1970, the other one with identical cabinet and endplates, necks keyheads mechanism and cross rods/bell cranks pedals etc was obtained in 1998. I was led to believe it was custom built for a USA based player who subsequently sold it whilst on tour in Ireland.. I'd really like to know the history of this guitar.
Is there any way of tracing who was the original purchaser of this D-10 ?
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Sven Kontio


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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2014 4:12 pm    
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basilh,
Send an email to emmonsguitars@hotmail.com and attach your pics. Ask Ron about the history of the guitar. He might have some info. It´s such a strange setup, I guess they remember that one...

I emailed a couple of times about my guitars and got my questions answered. They seem to have lots going on but they absolutely responded to my emails within some days and were very helpful.

/Sven
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