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David Scheidler


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Post  Posted 14 Jan 2014 5:51 pm    
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Anyone have a clue as to who made this guitar? Thought it might be handmade. What do you think?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-10-String-FANCY-Pedal-Steel-Guitar-PROJECT-Bigsby-MSA-Showbud-/390747106791?pt=Guitar&hash=item5afa57ade7
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Bob Carlucci

 

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Candor, New York, USA
Post  Posted 14 Jan 2014 6:19 pm    
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Looks like a one off home made.....
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Chris Lucker

 

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Post  Posted 15 Jan 2014 7:19 am    
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I will go out on a limb and guess that it came from Texas, that Bobbe Seymour and Danny shields did it. I think it used to be a double wide.

I have a D10 that does not look too far from this that is a Sho Bud Permanent copy and Seymour made it. Mine is far superior to a real Permanent. Same legs as this guitar. Different cabinet construction, though, where top meets ends and apron. The pickup is so simple it could have made by anyone, but looks like something Danny shields may have made.

But all this is just a wild guess except for the part about this eBay guitar formerly being a double neck.
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Scott Duckworth


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Post  Posted 15 Jan 2014 8:11 am    
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I thought about buying it to make a non-pedal / knee C6 out of it... A little bit concerned about the tuners and the leg sockets...
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David Scheidler


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Post  Posted 15 Jan 2014 4:29 pm    
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"A little bit concerned about the tuners and the leg sockets..."
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I'd build a rectangular, flat frame from a sheet of heavy gauge aluminum. Leave triangular corners in place and drill four holes just big enough for the legs to pass through. Fasten the frame to the bottom of the front, sides and rear apron with flat head, countersunk screws - stopping the frame at the cutout of the rear apron.

The tuners definitely need to be replaced. Might be a fun project, but the bidding is already above $200 with 5-1/2 days to go. It will be interesting to see how much it sells for.
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David Scheidler


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Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 15 Jan 2014 4:40 pm    
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...For best results, you may also want to fasten the triangular corners of the aluminum frame to the leg sockets with a couple screws on either side of each leg hole.
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Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 15 Jan 2014 4:55 pm    
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The feature that surprises me most is that there are no exposed screw heads for mounting the wood neck. The early Ron Lashley guitars, Sho-Buds and Sho Bud copies such as the RKS guitars have exposed screw heads.

This guitar, apart from once been a double neck, used to have a cast internal endplate that strengthened the wood endplate and provided rigidity. you can see the mark the internal endplate left on the wood.
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David Scheidler


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Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 15 Jan 2014 5:21 pm    
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Chris:

Good observation! It looks to me like the tailpiece is mounted from underneath with screws going through the metal plate in front of the changer fingers. There are also four similar screws on the opposite end of the cabinet that look like they're fastened to the bottom of the keyhead. The neck screws are probably under the fretboard.

I see the marks you're referring to regarding the missing internal endplate castings. Wonder why someone would change those - unless they were broke. One of the leg sockets is sitting rather crooked and the mitered cabinet joint is out of line. Lots of work for a hearty soul plenty of time on his hands. I'd consider tackling it, but my workshop is already overloaded with miscellaneous projects that need to get done.
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Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 15 Jan 2014 6:40 pm    
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I would not be surprised if there was no rear apron originally,

DALAND guitars had leg sockets that mounted just as poorly.
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 16 Jan 2014 11:02 am    
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Shobud "Ducktail" changer. Un-machined keyhead. I haven't seen those leg mounts before. Much less substantial than the ones on my cabinet end D16/12.
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 16 Jan 2014 11:23 am    
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Oops!

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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 16 Jan 2014 11:25 am    
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Sorry for the double! My 13 year old Mac blew up and this new iMac is a trip I haven't taken before!
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David Scheidler


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Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 16 Jan 2014 5:47 pm    
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$300 and counting.
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