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Topic: What chord Be this? |
Ian Holman
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New York, USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2014 7:27 am |
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The other day I was busy fumbling my way around the steel guitar. With the bar on the third fret I started picking the 7,6,and 5 strings. I like the sound of the chord but I'm not sure what chord it is? Is it some sort of B7th?
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 11 Jan 2014 7:36 am
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Simplest forms, G#m7 or B6¹.
There are other answers.
It's a partial chord, and its form depends upon what the leftout notes are. Such as it could be a D13b5¹.
¹ Oops. All those names are the chords at the nut. Raise by a minor third for third fret position.
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Ian Holman
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New York, USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2014 8:08 am
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| ah, thanks for the info. The tangled web of chord theory is a real head twister... for me at least. |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2014 8:21 am
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| Depending on the key you're playing in, it could be an E9th. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 11 Jan 2014 8:26 am
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Sure, Erv. If you want to stick to the obvious.
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2014 9:12 am
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Lane,
You bet, I believe in the KISS principle!  |
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Dale Rivard
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted 11 Jan 2014 9:26 am
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| It depends what the root note is. It could be a D6, an A sus add 9 or a Bm7. |
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Ron Pruter
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2014 8:42 pm
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I see an A, B and a D
I think what I like about it is the G sus 2 sound of it. Simply a G2. Usually used for the tonic or subdominant chord of a song. The bass player would play the Root G
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Bo Legg
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Posted 12 Jan 2014 10:46 pm
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I only use that combination of strings as a chord for a minor 7th chord (in this case a Bm7) or a major add 9 chord (in this case a Gadd9) two very good chords.
I've never thought of the Gadd9 as a G2 because this combination includes the 3rd. It could however be considered a Esus or an Asus2.
But it doesn't matter what you call it. You have defined it in latitude and longitude on the E9 neck and that's all anyone needs. |
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Ian Holman
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New York, USA
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Posted 13 Jan 2014 3:38 am
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| thanks for all the information, helps quite a bit... now I just need to figure out how to use it in the context of a song? |
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Glenn Suchan
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Austin, Texas
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Posted 13 Jan 2014 1:03 pm
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| Bo Legg wrote: |
| I've never thought of the Gadd9 as a G2 because this combination includes the 3rd. |
Bo, I hear ya' man.
I play in a praise band at my church. Until this band, I have never played contemporary praise music. I tell ya', I am amazed at how many songs incorporate '2' chords (not add9). Looking at the charts, the chords have the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th intervals. To my ears, they don't add much to a song, and sound vague against the melody... maybe it's a genre thing. 
Keep on pickin'!
Glenn
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Bo Legg
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Posted 13 Jan 2014 5:28 pm
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| Glenn I love praise music and Low to high 5th 1st 2nd and a low to high 1st 4th 5th are two very useful chords on an acoustic guitar even in Nashville. |
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Glenn Suchan
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 14 Jan 2014 7:10 pm
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I agree those triads do sound good. But when you have the four intervals I mentioned in my last post (low to high) 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th, the second interval just makes the chord sound kinda muddy and without much character.
BTW, your first example, low to high 5th, 1st, and 2nd; would it not be considered an add9 chord?
As you can guess, I like praise music also. My favorites tend more towards a gospel sound (Ashley Cleveland and Mike Farris & the Roseland Rhythm Review), but I do like a lot of the late Rich Mullins' music.
Peace be unto you and keep on pickin'!
Glenn
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Bo Legg
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Posted 14 Jan 2014 9:23 pm
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I've kind of accepted it in theory that a G5 is dropping the 3rd and replace it with a 5th. so you would have combination of 5th 1st 5th or what I call the Nashville chord low to high 5th 1st 5th 1st.
Rock folks would simply play a 1st & 5th or 5th & 1st and call it a power chord.
The reason I mention the above other than I love the chord is that it follows that a G2 is simply omitting the 3rd and replacing it with a 2nd. 5th 1st 2nd.
I really don't know why they don't call a Gsus a G4 when they drop the 3rd and replace it with a 4. So those chords are named G5 Gsus2 or G2 and Gsus (the 4th is understood)
These chords except for the G5 sound like crap if you add the 3rd and I would think you would then have to call them add chords |
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Ian Holman
From:
New York, USA
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Posted 15 Jan 2014 10:54 am
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| that's pretty much how it happened, giggling women, diaper clad child and all... |
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Glenn Suchan
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 15 Jan 2014 10:58 am
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| Bo Legg wrote: |
| ...The reason I mention the above other than I love the chord is that it follows that a G2 is simply omitting the 3rd and replacing it with a 2nd. 5th 1st 2nd.... |
Bo, I'm not a music theory expert (not even remotely close), and those on this Forum whom are, are invited to correct any misconceptions I state in this post.
A G2 chord does not omit the 3rd interval, it adds the 2nd interval to the major triad. A G2 chord could rightly be called a Gadd2 chord. When you add the 2nd interval and omit the 3rd interval from a Gmajor triad it becomes a Gsus2 chord.
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| I really don't know why they don't call a Gsus a G4 when they drop the 3rd and replace it with a 4... (the 4th is understood) |
Bo, that chord is formally known as a Gsus4 chord. 'G4' in the written form implies the G note above middle C which is known as C4.
Peace be unto you,
Glenn
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