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David Mason


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Post  Posted 23 Dec 2013 4:22 pm    
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http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=16510&step=4&showunits=inches&id=1&top_cat=0

A whole POUND of 0.012 music wire - only $152.21!

That's for 2,605 feet, dude. Say a string is 2 feet, roughly, just to stay with painless math -

1300 strings = $152.21
130 strings = $15.21
13 strings = $1.52
1.3 strings = $0.15....

Time to bone up on the ol' Boy Scout knot-tying badge! Where do I get 1,000 little brass doodads...

http://www.onlinemetals.com/product_search.cfm?step=2

Uh-oh... make that 5,000 of 'em? Mr. Green
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Jon Light


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Post  Posted 23 Dec 2013 4:25 pm    
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how quickly people forget my solution.....
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James Wolf

 

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Georgia
Post  Posted 23 Dec 2013 4:38 pm     Re: I will not run out of third strings.. I will not run out
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David Mason wrote:
http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=16510&step=4&showunits=inches&id=1&top_cat=0
Where do I get 1,000 little brass doodads...

http://www.onlinemetals.com/product_search.cfm?step=2

Uh-oh... make that 5,000 of 'em? Mr. Green


Just recycle the ones from your other strings when you take them off!!!
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Ken Metcalf


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Post  Posted 23 Dec 2013 4:56 pm    
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Or ...
I get them for $2.90 a doz.
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Lee Baucum


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Post  Posted 23 Dec 2013 5:02 pm    
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Jon Light wrote:
how quickly people forget my solution.....


C'mon Jon. Do it!
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 23 Dec 2013 5:06 pm    
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Aw.......

Just load 'er up with your bulk wire and set the drag.

Everything's better with Zebco.



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Jim Pitman

 

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Post  Posted 23 Dec 2013 6:44 pm    
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Jon , is that real? (pun intended)
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Dave Mudgett


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Post  Posted 23 Dec 2013 7:29 pm    
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Well, just in case you're seriously asking ...

John Pearse Strings sells the ball ends for $6.95/200 or $34.75/1000 and a winding machine for around $75 - http://www.jpstrings.com/braccess.htm#Wizard2

So you're talking about $117 for the wire for 1000 and $35 for 1000 ball ends, or about $0.15 each plus the amortized cost of the winding machine - and now you need to wind them to the ball end, unless you're using a Floyd.

Sounds like a lot of trouble when you can go here - http://www.juststrings.com/plainsteelguitarbulkstrings.html - and get any gauge of plain string you'd ever need in even dozens for $2.90/12 or about $0.24 each.
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 24 Dec 2013 3:20 am    
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well I for one am never worried about 3rd string breakage. I change the 3rd and 5th, "AT HOME" every two weeks when gigging. I have not broke a 3 or 5 on a gig in probably 10 years or more. Like many here I buy a couple of dozen at a time. Most of them will probably die from old age or boredom of never seeing the stage !

It's an interesting thought to purchase a roll of wire and make our own but somehow that's not for me. In perspective I probably have maybe $25 or $30 in spare 11's that will carry me thru many years. When they run out I'll get some more !

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Stephen R. Feldman

 

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Post  Posted 24 Dec 2013 8:03 am     Or...
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Is there any harm in using
12's ?

I use 11's instead of 10's on
guitar for the same reason.

Thanks,
Steve
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 24 Dec 2013 8:12 am    
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I have used 12's for 10 years. No problem. Minor retune may be necessary at the nylon nut.
My observation is that the extra beef of the string adds to longevity. The extra tension of the heavier gauge subtracts from longevity. The result (re: longevity) is a wash. I use 12's because I prefer the sound.

I take David's original post in the same spirit as my photos.
I buy all my strings by the dozen from juststrings.
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Tommy Auldridge


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Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 24 Dec 2013 8:18 am     I've Always Used 12's
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Steve: There's no harm in using .012 for your 3rd. string. I've always used 12's. They sound better and sustain better. I never break one. Thanks, Tommy......
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Stephen R. Feldman

 

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Post  Posted 24 Dec 2013 8:24 am     yes to the lasst two posts
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Someday I'll break down and buy
a set of expensive strings, but
I also buy 'em in packs of 12 for now.

I think most of the "tone" is in your hands,
or the distance between the pickup and
your right hand (farther=more bass, etc).

Thanks,
Steve
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 24 Dec 2013 9:12 am    
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I've used 12s for years and recently tried the Live Steel Strings. I have never had such quality tone out of that 3rd string before. You really need to give them a try.
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Willie Sims

 

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PADUCAH, KY, USA
Post  Posted 24 Dec 2013 9:21 am    
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What's wrong with reusing your third string as long as it breaks at the changer? If you don't know how to do it, I'd be happy to give you instructions on the easy way to use your third string serval times. If you're interested let me know.
Willie Sims
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Stephen R. Feldman

 

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Takoma Park, MD
Post  Posted 24 Dec 2013 10:21 am     O.k.
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I'll try Live Steels at some point,
now that I've got testimony.

Thanks,
Steve
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 24 Dec 2013 11:14 am    
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ok I just gotta ask..whats wrong with this picture..on a $4000 Instrument, thinking of using a previously broken string instead of spending 50 cents for a new one.

someone had to ask... Laughing
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Stephen R. Feldman

 

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Takoma Park, MD
Post  Posted 24 Dec 2013 11:30 am     Recycling strings...
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This reminds me of an old
Danny Gatton/ Roy Buchannan story.

The bassists for both of these players
had a contest for how long either of them
could go without changing strings. When I
heard this, it was said to be at the eight year mark.

Also, someone once asked Mr. Buchannan
how often he changed his strings, he
supposedly said "When they break..."

If you go to ebay and look for "Bulk
Strings" you'll find the lots of
twelve with "Free Shipping". I don't know
how they make money on these, 'cause they
sent them to me in 5"x5" boxes. But
they're new strings as far as I can tell.
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Stephen R. Feldman

 

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Takoma Park, MD
Post  Posted 24 Dec 2013 11:44 am     They've caught on ...
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Hello,

Here it is:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rogue-P11-Bulk-12-Pack-011-Plain-Steel-Electric-Guitar-Strings-/161179720008?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item25870f5948

They don't ship for free anymore, but
that's still around $0.50 per string,
to your door.
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Ken Campbell

 

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Ferndale, Montana
Post  Posted 24 Dec 2013 2:20 pm     Uhh yeah
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Tony Prior wrote:
ok I just gotta ask..whats wrong with this picture..on a $4000 Instrument, thinking of using a previously broken string instead of spending 50 cents for a new one.

someone had to ask... Laughing


And do try the live steel. Simply astonishing.
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Willie Sims

 

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PADUCAH, KY, USA
Post  Posted 24 Dec 2013 2:23 pm    
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Everyone knows that the logical thing to do is keep
extra supply of third strings, but I know of people that don't for some reason or other. Still, if you find yourself in a bind when you break a third and discover you don't have an extra one, and it's inconvenient to go get one. Maybe at night, it doesn't hurt to know how to repair a broken string.

I doubt that you could look at your $4000 guitar and tell it had a repaired string on it.

It's not about the price of the string, it's about being able to repair one should you have to. It seems like some of you fellows get your jollies from trying to make someone else look foolish.
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Stephen R. Feldman

 

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Takoma Park, MD
Post  Posted 25 Dec 2013 4:50 am     No foul intended
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You're right, point taken.
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 25 Dec 2013 5:52 am    
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Willie Sims wrote:


It seems like some of you fellows get your jollies from trying to make someone else look foolish.


Please accept my apology, that wasn't the intent, it was more of point counter point. I have said many things right here on this bd where someone had a counter point which , after I reflected back, made my initial point look..well..not a like good point ! Sad

IF repairing a string gets someone out of a jam obviously it's a good thing.



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Craig Schwartz


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McHenry IL
Post  Posted 25 Dec 2013 8:08 am    
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WillIe,I would like to see how you do this repair exactly,you could end up being a genius even if it looks really Canadian, if your Not good looking you should at least B handy
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 25 Dec 2013 9:32 am    
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Is the repair quicker than putting on a new string? Can it be done in the heat of the battle when onstage? I can break a string towards the beginning of a song, and have it changed and back to playing by the end of the song or during the first part of the next song. Of course, I rarely break strings any more.
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