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Topic: YES OR NO? Rear Aluminum/Shiny Trim |
Jeff Metz Jr.
From: York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 2:10 am
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YES or NO?
Do you think steel companies should put Aluminum trim on the back of the guitar like they do on the front? Why?
MY ANSWER:
I started this thread because I always wished that my Emmons PP had the beautiful chrome trim that it has on the front, on the back.
I just received my new mullen and same deal. No Trim on the back of the guitar.
It does look fine without it , but I wonder if it would make it look that much sharper with rear trim.
Let me know what your thoughts are!
Thank you
-Jeff _________________ Mullen G2 SD10 , Lil Izzy Buffer, Goodrich 120 volume pedal, Boss DD-7, Peterson Strobo flip, Peavey Nashville 112 |
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Malcolm McMaster
From: Beith Ayrshire Scotland
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 3:00 am
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Jeff, think it depends on particular guitar,some have the metal cross shaft support rail showing, so on these it might be too much.Also if the back is contoured it would make placing it on very difficult.I do like metal trim, and recently had my Milly done up by MSA, and it only had trim on the front bottom edge so I had Kyle put on a top strip, making it more like the Studio Pro model, just personal preference ,and do realise that everyone has different taste.
_________________ MSA Millenium SD10, GK MB200, Sica 12inch cab, Joyo American Sound Pedal/ Jay Ganz Straight Ahead amp, Telonics 15inch in Peavey cab, Digitech RP150, Peterson tuner.Hilton volume pedal.Scott Dixon seat and guitar flight case. |
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Keith Currie
From: Shellbrook, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 8:55 am
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I know what you mean Jeff, my D-10 Franklin has the inlay chrome strip on the back and it dose make it look good. |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 11:08 am
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i've always been disappointed with the back side cosmetics of many steels. i think they should have the trim. also, wood guitars with the nice inlay should always have the inlay in the necks and the backside.
but get a brand new guitar like an emmons or mullen and all you get back there is the unattractive utilitarian look.
that's how it should look. |
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Tom Gorr
From: Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 12:27 pm
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Utilitarian is good for gigging machines, but pedal steel guitars are the centerpiece of many beautiful living rooms, and they should be the finest pieces of furniture in the room at the price. |
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Doug Earnest
From: Branson, MO USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 1:52 pm
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I would guess that if you are willing to pay for it you can get it. Of course all this is a lot of why guitars cost so much now. Still cheaper than a bass boat. |
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Chris Lucker
From: Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 2:08 pm
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I think a piece of aluminum inlay on the rear apron would be susceptible to being shorn off, unless it was a full right angle piece applied to both the top deck and the rear apron, but that is too much trim in my opinion. _________________ Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Keith Currie
From: Shellbrook, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 2:18 pm
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Why would it get torn off the back and not the front if it put on right when inlaying the mica? |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 2:18 pm
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this is actually just a dumb discussion. but i've always liked trim of some kind. it attracted me to the steel early on. ...but now....chris, my friend.....why would trim on the back be more susceptible to damage than on the front?
and...after 30 years of barroom abuse, most trim needs a little spot of glue , anyhoo!
let's keep in mind that formica steels owe their heritage to kitchen countertops. |
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Jerry Berger
From: Nampa, Idaho USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 2:18 pm
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My custom made PSG looks like a fine piece of furniture and is made from a tree grown in South America called "Tigerwood." It also has MOP engraved all around the cabinet.
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Chris Lucker
From: Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 2:24 pm
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Because the player sits at the rear of the guitar and has at least two arms, often covered with sleeves, that often rest on the corner of the rear apron and top deck. Every time these arms are withdrawn, there is a chance they will catch the edge of the trim. I can send you a vector drawing of your wish.
I imagine you could put the trim on with some kind of glue that can never be removed, but that would not be a good idea. _________________ Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Paddy Long
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 2:24 pm
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Both of my Zum's have got a nice chrome strip across the back
_________________ 14'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
08'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
94' Franklin Stereo D10 9+8
Telonics, Peterson, Steelers Choice, Benado, Lexicon, Red Dirt Cases. |
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Keith Currie
From: Shellbrook, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 2:30 pm
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I am not talking about trim glued on the surface, Iam saying if the top rear of the Mica is inlaid you cant just pull it off with out disturbing the mica also. |
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Fred Justice
From: Mesa, Arizona
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 2:33 pm
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Chris and Chris, here is the # 1 cause of damage to the rear of the guitar.
_________________ Email: azpedalman@gmail.com
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 2:33 pm
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Paddy, that's not decoration, that's access. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Chris Lucker
From: Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 2:34 pm
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Bigsby should have slathered some trim on his cabinets. Then they would have looked like something.
_________________ Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars.
Last edited by Chris Lucker on 19 Dec 2013 6:17 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Chris Lucker
From: Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 2:39 pm
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Keith Currie wrote: |
I am not talking about trim glued on the surface, Iam saying if the top rear of the Mica is inlaid you cant just pull it off with out disturbing the mica also. |
I was addressing the original question -- about aluminum trim as in the front of a guitar. _________________ Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Clark Doughty
From: KANSAS
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 2:59 pm Trim
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Or you can add your own like this:
My thought was I'm basically the only one who sees the back or rear of the guitar so I wanted it to look like what everyone else sees up front....... |
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Chris Lucker
From: Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 3:27 pm
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More trim always makes a Cadillac look better
_________________ Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Mike Mantey
From: Eastern Colorado, USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 3:33 pm
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Order it that way and we will put it in, just cost more. I agree the player sits on the back side of the guitar so the trim is just more apt to get damaged/scratched. We can make sure it isn't ever coming off, but belt buckles, buttons on shirts, jewelry, etc. I can think of a ton of things that could scratch it. Same with the front but you do not sit on that side.
Either way, it is personal preference and not standard issue. You can order it that way if you want it. No problem.
As for a Lacquer guitar Yes.
And as for a Mica Mullen it would look like Clark's Picture. Or whatever, single one in the middle, each 1/4" down and up, don't matter. |
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Chris Robbins
From: Biggsville Illinois
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 5:53 pm chrome strips
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clark, where did you get those chrome strips? |
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Jack Hanson
From: San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 6:42 pm
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For me personally, there may be less important features on a pedal steel guitar, especially one covered with 'mica, but I can't think of what they might be. Wouldn't care if it looked like my grandma's kitchen table if it sounded good and held its tuning. Agree that the marquetry looks nice on any lacquered instrument. Any lacquered push-pull with wood necks looks good to me. |
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Butch Pytko
From: Orlando, Florida, USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 6:42 pm
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Since my Derby and Emmons happen to be side by side, I took this quick comparison picture. Maybe it's just me, but I could give a flip if the rear apron is decorated or not. When I'm playing either guitar, I forget all about the rear apron. I guess it does look nice on the Derby, but I don't like the Emmons any less because it's lacking the chrome strips. So, it just doesn't matter to me.
As far as, accidentally pulling off or damaging the rear apron chrome strips, I've been playing the Derby at various gigs for over 8 years and it still is as good as new--including the rear apron chrome strips. Of course, I take care of my guitars--some people wouldn't be as careful.
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Paddy Long
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 7:39 pm
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Lane I know, I was taking the mickey _________________ 14'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
08'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
94' Franklin Stereo D10 9+8
Telonics, Peterson, Steelers Choice, Benado, Lexicon, Red Dirt Cases. |
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Jack Hanson
From: San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2013 8:12 pm
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Chris Lucker wrote: |
More trim always makes a Cadillac look better
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Hey Mr. Lucker,
Does that Caddy of yours have custom tiger maple trim on its interior? |
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