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Topic: Just got to thinking............. |
Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 28 Nov 2013 2:01 pm |
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As a lead playing steel guitarist accustomed to hearing melody lines of familiar music.....is there anything in particular that irks you? One has to be pretty much a perfectionist............or it really, really shows.
Someone playing the wrong chords beyond obvious places;
Someone playing harmony with you, with a sharp or flat harmony line?
Or someone that cuts time, makes a vocal change a beat or two, too early; or, too late? |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 28 Nov 2013 2:43 pm
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Ray, that kind of thing doesn't just irk me, it drives me (f-word)ing insane.
There were a lot of different reasons why I stopped gigging. Dealing with amateurs who think that's all it takes to be a professional is to learned how to strum a few chords on a 6 string guitar, is one of them.
You've heard the phrase, "Delusions pf grandeur." Here's a new one for you: "delusions of competence."
Amateurs are amateurs, no matter what they may be doing. Somehow, it's OK to be an amateur musician, But God forbid that you need surgery, would you want an amateur to perform the operation?
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Ray Montee
From:
Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 28 Nov 2013 3:00 pm Public Service TV in Portland............
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They've been graciously telecasting all kinds of local talent and not.
The thing that really impacts me.......is how the younger kids most always have loudly painted guitars and bass.......do all the jumping around on stage, flipping their long hair......wearing their guitars down around the knees, skimpy costumes, etc., etc.
No emphasis at all on playing recognizable music in traditional musician methods.
I feel they've been sold a bill of goods by someone and they are going to fail miserably to find any deep rooted pleasures from music, as most of us here on the SGF have experienced.
Every time I sit down to play, I without fail, discover some heart warming new thingy to play. |
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Ray Montee
From:
Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 28 Nov 2013 3:00 pm Public Service TV in Portland............
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They've been graciously telecasting all kinds of local talent and not.
The thing that really impacts me.......is how the younger kids most always have loudly painted guitars and bass.......do all the jumping around on stage, flipping their long hair......wearing their guitars down around the knees, skimpy costumes, etc., etc.
No emphasis at all on playing recognizable music in traditional musician methods.
I feel they've been sold a bill of goods by someone and they are going to fail miserably to find any deep rooted pleasures from music, as most of us here on the SGF have experienced.
Every time I sit down to play, I without fail, discover some heart warming new thingy to play. |
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Sean Borton
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Winnipeg Manitoba, Canada
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Posted 28 Nov 2013 3:54 pm
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Ray, I can't argue with any of your initial thoughts and examples.
I will add tone/volume! Why is the person with the worst tone always the loudest?
But one of my biggest pet peeves has nothing to do with musicianship, it has to do with professionalism. PUNCTUALITY! That means everything - rehearsals, sound checks, gigs, travel, etc... When somebody is not on time, 9 times out of 10 they are wasting everyone else's...
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Rich Gardner
From:
Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2013 5:29 pm
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... but a singer with poor timing who skips a beat, or worse yet, skips a half a beat is the absolute worst!
I guess you do want to back Willie Nelson. Ha! Ha! |
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Clyde Mattocks
From:
Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2013 7:42 pm
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Playing with a guitarist who thinks any moment of no fill is his invitation to play. For instance, when it's my slot to back, I might want to let the first vocal line go by and then answer it, but Mr. Busy thinks I'm laying out and here he comes over me.
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Ray Montee
From:
Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 28 Nov 2013 11:27 pm Then again.............
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I played with this little group and they added a symphony violinist to their contingent.
He played single string melody or rambling thro' every measure of every song regardless who might be playing. He had no concept of what it's all about, apparently without sheet music or a guy with a baton. |
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Joe Casey
From:
Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 29 Nov 2013 6:41 am
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| I actually was lucky enough to have some great musicians who mostly knew what to play and what not to play. But I did have a rule. If you over play your, playings over. Only once do I remember a real problem but there were many little ones. I was always careful to balance egos. Find musicians that knew the difference between a job and a party and mostly liked working with each other. |
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