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Chuck Blake


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Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 8:48 am    
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I trying to find a good number for Curtis Hogue. Also can anyone advise if Gary Carter is still answering questions about Rains guitars?

One of my Rains will not completely lower its 6th string via the RKL to an F# as it is set up to do so. Also the same RKL will not allow string to completely return to pitch after release.

Worked two evenings and unable to resolve the issue. Hook Moore has offered great advise but I have not fixed the issue.

Thanks for any help.
Chuck
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 8:53 am    
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Are you using a wound string on the 6th?
If so, try a plain string. I use a plain 22.
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Chuck Blake


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Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 9:32 am    
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Irv I am using a plain 6th.
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 9:34 am    
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You might have a string end struck in the changer.
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Chuck Blake


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Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 10:43 am    
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Just spoke with Gary Carpenter. What a great guy to talk with. He was vary patient with my questions and gave me a lot of advice.

Rains guitars.....good people
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 11:32 am    
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so what was the advice and did it solve the problem?
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Chuck Blake


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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 12:07 pm    
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Still at work Chris saving lives.....gonin' home and raising the hood.
Gary suggested backing off the split tuning screw
for string 6 that sets behind the tuner. Then go to neutral on the tuning adjustments screws, start retuning the RKL action.
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Chuck Blake


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Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 12:08 pm    
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Still at work Chris saving lives.....gonin' home and raising the hood.
Gary suggested backing off the split tuning screw
for string 6 that sets behind the tuner. Then go to neutral on the tuning adjustments screws, start retuning the RKL action.
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Roger Francis

 

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kokomo,Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 12:49 pm    
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Thats what i did to mine Chuck, ajusted stop screw and set plastic tuning nuts on that sting to nutral or idle so they wasnt puting presure on the string, it cured the problem, and i think i had to reset my first string too cause its connected to that lever but dont remember for sure
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Chuck Blake


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Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 1:35 pm    
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Thanks Roger
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Chuck Blake


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Post  Posted 24 Oct 2013 10:25 am    
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UPDATE......After talking with Gary Carpenter and Curtis Hogue I zeroed all adjustments for my 6th string.... B pedal and RKl and started over. Also upon advice I backed the split adjusting screw off.
The only trouble I have now is after lower my 6th string with my RKL it does not completely return, even with the return spring tight.
Must be binding on something.
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Rocky Evangelisti

 

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Perth, Western Australia
Post  Posted 24 Oct 2013 4:54 pm     Adjusting My Rains Guitar
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Hi Chuck,
Any chance you could forward me Gary's & Curtis's phone numbers.
I need parts for my Rains but cannot get a response to my emails from Curtis.
Thanks
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Chuck Blake


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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 24 Oct 2013 6:33 pm    
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Still no luck getting my 6th string to return to correct tuning after lowering.
I guess I'm not a steel tech
Laughing
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 24 Oct 2013 9:21 pm    
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Is the problem in the rod/lever or the fingers?
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richard burton


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Post  Posted 24 Oct 2013 9:28 pm    
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Lift the 6th string off its nut roller (at the headstock) and check that that sucker rotates freely, a sticking roller can cause exactly what your experiencing with your 6th string.
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Chuck Blake


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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 25 Oct 2013 12:11 pm    
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Tried that Richard....rolls free and re-lubricated.

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Chuck
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 25 Oct 2013 1:43 pm    
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Chuck, to elaborate on my post:
Try pushing on the lower finger with a pen. Does it return accurately then?
If yes, then look to the pull rods, that they're not angled or bound up.
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Chuck Blake


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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 25 Oct 2013 7:39 pm    
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Heading out of town this weekend to see Marty Stuart and Connie Smith at Renfro Valley. Gonna continue to look. Guitar returns to within 10 cents of pitch.
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