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Topic: Question for Emmons Black Rock Owners Past/Present |
Mark Hershey
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New York, USA
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Posted 20 Oct 2013 9:02 am |
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I have an Emmons Black Rock that needs a bit of work and am going to take it up to John Widgen here soon.
One of the issues I'm having with my steel is the sustain is pretty bad. I've done several searches on here re: sustain and the tips/pointers regarding cranking amp volume, changing strings, cleaning the guitar etc. Tried them all.
All I know is this guitar strings plucked open with no bar on it just doesn't ring out very long. I tried my teachers Sho Pro and I was amazed at how much longer the guitar sustained for. I know that a Sho Pro is in an entirely different league than the Black Rock.
The short of it all, how's the sustain on your Black Rock?
Outside of this issue, I think it is an awesome sounding guitar. |
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Bob Knight
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Bowling Green KY
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Posted 21 Oct 2013 8:37 am
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| All I know is this guitar strings plucked open with no bar on it just doesn't ring out very long. |
How old are your strings? These guitars usually have great sustain. |
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Jack Hanson
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San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2013 8:51 am
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There is something seriously awry if your Black Rock does not sustain. This is bolt-on Emmons push-pull, after all. It should sustain all day long, and then some.
A fresh set of strings along with a very tiny amount of oil on the tip of a toothpick to the hub of the nut rollers can work wonders.
Even the rosewood Black Rocks sound great, but most will agree the black 'mica models sound the best! |
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Jim Eaton
From:
Santa Susana, Ca
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Posted 21 Oct 2013 10:48 am
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Just maybe.....someone has over tightened the neck mounting screws.
JE:-)>
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2013 2:07 pm
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| Mike Cass said this Aug 3, 2012: "Pound for pound probably the best low and mid-line guitars ever available to date, imho." Mike was referring to the Emmons GS-10 and Black Rock guitars. |
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Mark Hershey
From:
New York, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2013 5:31 pm
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| Jim Eaton wrote: |
Just maybe.....someone has over tightened the neck mounting screws.
JE:-)> |
Some one else mentioned that failure to have proper body contact and stop bar timing can kill the sustain as well
I was wondering if the lack of metal neck can affect the sustain as well. Sounds like from the other posters in this thread their Black Rocks sustain really well.
I'm taking it to the technician and will post what the remedy is if he can fix it. I know that achieving good sustain is a frequent topic. |
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Mark Hershey
From:
New York, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2013 5:35 pm
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| Jack Hanson wrote: |
| Mike Cass said this Aug 3, 2012: "Pound for pound probably the best low and mid-line guitars ever available to date, imho." Mike was referring to the Emmons GS-10 and Black Rock guitars. |
The sound of my Emmons is remarkable, it just doesn't sustain the way I would like. If I have to I will just upgrade to a pro model to get what I'm after. |
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Walter Bowden
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Wilmington, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 22 Oct 2013 5:36 pm
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Have you had the changer "tuned"? I have an S10 p/p that sounded real good when I bought it but I took it to Billy Knowles and learned a big part of the p/p tone is having the changer adjusted so body contact is consistent with changer fingers. Some p/p people say (including me) you can hear the "clicks" when the changer is tuned. I know my S10 sounded much better after Billy's great setup and properly adjusted, a p/p seems to be very stable and user friendly.
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