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Rob Munn

 

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Post  Posted 25 Sep 2013 9:04 pm    
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Steve Dawson is a great steel player and music producer who has just moved to Nashville; just another good Canadian musician gone south for a shot at bigger things. Playing 2 guitars with a short but sweet bit from a green Carter pedal steel at the end. Pretty tune. What do you think is the tuning for this song on the pedal steel?
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Scott Duckworth


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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2013 4:01 am    
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And the song is?
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Rob Munn

 

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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2013 5:40 am    
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I'm sorry. Starting to sound like my mom, who is a couple of generations older (how long is a generation?), who often sends me the preface but forgets to include the subject. Here is the Youtube and his website.
Rob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KLy3iMXS_k


http://www.stevedawson.ca/discography.html
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Mike Wheeler


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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2013 5:53 am    
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Looks and sounds like standard E9th to me.
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Rob Munn

 

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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2013 6:05 am    
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I hope I didn't insult my mother! She is technically one generation behind/ahead of me right? I've always thought more in terms of musical generations. Dad was into Big Band (and everything after), while my mom started with the pop of the early 50's (Doris Day etc.) but then became a hard and fast folk and roots afficiando (remember Sing Out magazine?) Musical generations seem to keep comin' around, although Big Band lasted a long time, it also faded over time. Wonder how long R&R/R&B will be around. The blues ran right through all the 20th century musical generations. Jazz to a lesser degree. And yet, the steel guitar sound has also weathered all these musical storm clouds. Rock on Forever!
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Rob Munn

 

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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2013 6:07 am    
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Thanks Mike,

I am just starting on the lap steel, but am fascinated by the many chords available with the pedal. I like the layout of the single Carter. Looks comfortable. How many pedals and knees on the single Carter?
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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 26 Sep 2013 9:59 am    
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Green steels sound better. Especially if they were made by Bud Carter. Laughing

(Purple steels sound better too.)
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Rob Munn

 

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Post  Posted 27 Sep 2013 9:52 am    
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So Mike, which steel is your purple one? How many pedals and levers on a single neck Carter? Is Bud still making the singles? I checked the website (boy has he got the definitive domain name), but was re-directed away from the site.
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 27 Sep 2013 1:52 pm    
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Rob, This is my purple millennium.



I bought it in 2005. I bought the green one shown in my avatar in 1978, and sold it in 2007 in order to buy a second Millennium U-12 that turned up on E-bay. That one is white, which co-incidentally is the same color as my other former MSA.

I believe that the Carter U-12 came with 7 or 8 pedals, and 4 or 5 knee levers. Of course, John (R.I.P.) and Bud would put as many pedals and knee levers on their guitars as their customers ordered.

After John's tragic passing, Bud and Larry Agin started a new company, ETS. Sadly, Larry was killed in a car accident shortly after company was founded. I have heard that they were planning on building U-12s, but they went out of business when Larry died.
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Rob Munn

 

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Post  Posted 28 Sep 2013 7:45 am    
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Thanks for all the info Mike,

Nice guitar. Looking through the posts I've heard great things about them. Maybe I will make it my first pedal steel some day.
I always feel a little daft after starting a post when, after doing a search, I could have learned the fate of Carter and MSA guitars. I came across the beautiful and bountifully heartfelt, SGF memorial post for John Fabian and his wife Ann (2010), who worked with Bud Carter. I just have to say that this is the best forum style website I've ever seen of any kind anywhere; and the fact that I am interested in steel guitars, pedal and non-pedal makes no difference; there is such rich info coming from professionals like yourself, that anyone would enjoy this forum. I am starting to feel like I should get better at playing these steels before I start commenting on them. I came across a Herb Steiner post and others (Mike Neer for eg.) who of course have very extensive knowledge and experience; a confidence builder to newbies like myself. Every time I start a post I know I'll get an answer. Very cool.
If and when I buy a pedal steel (after figuring out the B-6 and National non-pedals I have), I know I will have all the info I need on this post. Maybe I'll start with a single Carter like your old one and the Steve Dawson one.
BTW, I really enjoyed the Spanish steel guitar tunes from your cd.
Thanks,
Rob
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 28 Sep 2013 9:38 am    
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Rob, thank you for the kind words about my recordings.

You said, "I am interested in steel guitars, pedal and non-pedal makes no difference." In my opinion, the pedal and non pedal steel guitars are different instruments. only distantly related. Undoubtedly there are people here who disagree with that.

You also described my MSA Millennium as a "Nice guitar." That has to be the world's greatest understatement. It's one of the finest (and most expensive,) pedal steel guitars in the world. It should be noted though that all the builders today are making great steels, and if you decide to buy a pedal steel guitar, you will get a quality instrument regardless of which brand you buy.

So, although I personally like and recommend MSA, you can buy an intermediate level guitar like Stage One or a Simmons for around 20% of the price. If you're prepared to spend $1,500-2,000 you can get a Zum Encore or an ETS. (There are still as few for sale floating around, but I think that they will all be snatched up soon.)

I suggest that you avoid student guitars like the Carter Starter or the MSA Red Baron. You are better off with a used professional grade instrument, There are plenty of them in the "For Sale" section of this forum, and lots of folks around here like me who are obsessed with our steels, Laughing and who will happily give you their advice.
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