Nylon Tuner Sizes

Judson Adair · From: Oklahoma, USA

I recently ordered nylon tuners for the first time. The tuning wrench that I use say 3/8th on it so I ordered 3/8th. When I go them the outside was the correct size but the thread part was significantly too small. I went back looked to see if maybe I had just order the wrong thing but there didn't seem to be any options dimensions of the inside thread diameter.

Does anyone know what I should be ordering or where to get them from? I ordered these from TSGN on Ebay.

I play a Wilcox SD-10. If that helps.

Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

ITYM 3/16".
It's supposed to be TIGHT. If you'll look, they have a smooth bore; the rod cuts the thread the first time you put em on. If they won't go on even with some pressure, you might have to drill 'em out. I suspect, though, that leaning on the wrench should fix it.
Does Wilcox use 1/8" rods, 7/64", or 3/32"?
Since the nylon is soft, you want it to kinda fight back the first time.
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Robert Parent · From: Gillette, WY

Lane summed it up pretty well..... All of my guitars use a 3/16 driver. For the past several years I have bought nylon nuts from McMaster Carr. I order the nuts bored to a #2 size and then redrill them slightly larger (but smaller than the pull rod). They should fit rather snug onto the rod and there is no need to pre-thread them. You can order a number drill of the correct size from McMaster as well.

Robert

Ron Kassof · From: Las Vegas, NV, USA

Just got these from Grainger, for my MSA. We'll see how they work.

Larry Bressington · From: Nebraska

You may have to work them in sections as they can bind and bend the rod. Go forward a few turns then take it off . An electric screwdriver works a treat with the 3/16 socket on it. After you've gotten worked all the way, Take them off a couple times so there still turnable without super stiff resistance.. As lanes says: what size rod do you have?
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Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

It can help to oil the threads, since you are cutting nylon.
I try to remember to put new ones on P8, since the shorter rod is less apt to twist.
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Joe Rouse · From: San Antonio, Texas

Ron, do you search for 3/16" nylon spacers? And does Grainger sell them by the dozens, hundreds etc? Thanks....jr

Judson Adair · From: Oklahoma, USA

I have some 3/16th one and that is definitely not the right size. They are way to small.

As for the rods, I have no idea what size they are. I was hope someone on here might know.

And leaning on them will not work. The hole size is not just a little off, it is off to the point that you cannot start it at all.

I ended up drilling them out and it seems to be working fine.

Ron Pruter · From: Arizona, USA

Interestingly, I just bought some tuners from Mullen , for a mullen, that I thought were a little loose when I tried the new ones.. Had better results drilling out a smaller holed tuner with a 7/64 drill bit and then just ,kind of, force threading it on the rod. RP
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Larry Bressington · From: Nebraska

If the 3/16th was too small, I think the next size up on rods are 7/64? Some are as big as 1/8 on older steels. Dial caliper time
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Ron Kassof · From: Las Vegas, NV, USA

JR,

Grainger call them "Nylon Hex Standoffs". They have them in packs of 10 or 100. About $0.40 - $0.50 each depending on quantity.

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