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Kenan Ozan

 

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Post  Posted 16 Aug 2013 12:29 pm    
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Should I be working scales in 1 position (across the strings) or changing positions (playing scales in grips by changing positions)? I worked up "Whiskey Before Breakfast" hoping you guys would give me some constructive criticism. It's all in one position. Do people play this way? It seems hard to pick block. Any exercises?

At least I'm having fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blx6KRSuLg&feature=youtu.be
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 16 Aug 2013 1:54 pm    
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Both. You should not only feel comfortable playing in one "pocket," but also in playing runs that take you from one to another.
I'll look at the video in a bit.
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John Scanlon


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Post  Posted 16 Aug 2013 2:43 pm    
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I've only been playing about 5 years, but I'd palm block that one. I'd think palm blocking would make it sound much cleaner, esp. around 0:45-0:50. Also, go ahead and wear fingerpicks and get used to them - it looked like maybe you only had on a thumbpick.

Starting out, I concentrated very hard on learning the harmonized scales a) in (mostly) one position, b) up and down the neck, never repeating the same position, and c) a combination of both. Check Mickey Adams's stuff on YouTube for enough pick-blocking exercises to keep you busy for months. There are also many different ways to articulate the harmonized scale, as Joe Wright would say - check out his six hours' worth of free pedal steel lessons over at the Sierra Steels website: http://www.sierrasteels.com/lessons/e9th-lessons.html I think this gets right to the heart of your question.
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Ron Pruter

 

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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2013 7:57 pm    
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John, He's wearing picks. Nicely executed, but
blocking is needed.RP
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 19 Aug 2013 2:14 pm    
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I'd go with pick blocking, but that's just personal preference. For the time you've been playing, what you're doing is pretty good, but you should learn to play it both ways - bar in one spot, and bar moving. Often the moving bar helps the blocking and sounds better, too! Smile
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Gary Lee Gimble


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Post  Posted 20 Aug 2013 1:13 pm    
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Kenan,
Posted below is a link to said vid, real estate included which may answer part of your question. BTW, I believe this is for the most part, a D tune, but never the less, it sounds kewl in G too Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu-kPM5IFfs
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Charles Curtis

 

Post  Posted 20 Aug 2013 2:47 pm    
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Hi Gary, wow, it's been awhile since I've heard you but I am totally impressed. Your rendition of,"I Love You So Much" in the C-6th, IMO, is amazing. Did you do this yourself or did you have tab? IMO, you're up there with the big boys now. This is how practicing 3 hours a day, 7 days a week pays off. Congratulations my friend. And no I haven't heard better.
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Gary Lee Gimble


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Post  Posted 20 Aug 2013 11:45 pm    
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Hey Charles, thanks for the compliments. To answer your question, I never use tab when working stuff up, I just go fishing for notes as they are all there, somewhere, underneath the tone bar.... Smile
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Joseph Barcus

 

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Post  Posted 21 Aug 2013 5:40 pm    
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a note about blocking " my 2 cents worth" it depends on the song some songs or breaks are better with pick blocking while others are with palm. over time it will come natural even though I am not a speed picker and really dont care to be I find myself applying both palm and pick blocking sometimes in the same break or song
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Dave Hopping


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Post  Posted 21 Aug 2013 7:48 pm    
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@Kenan-one of the nice things about pedal steel is that are just about a bizgillion ways to play any particular sequence of notes.Sometimes it works better to play in one position,sometimes better to work your way up and down the neck,depending on how you want it to sound.
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