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Topic: VIBRATO...........to correct or not to correct |
Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 13 Jun 2013 1:48 pm |
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In a recent thread, a number of SGF's players took issue with what REALLY was vibrato and what was not.
While I didn't agree with some of the posters, I do respect their right to state their position and I appreciate learning their veiws.
Another steel guitarist just shared the following video that I felt truly represents "VIBRATO", not as a corrective step to compensate for inaccurate bar placement but rather to enhance those beautiful melody notes.
Another good lesson to learn from this video, is the players' creative improvising in subsequent choruses.
What are your feelings on this topic?
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Amazing Grace, David Doring, Panflute in den Bergen, Panflute |
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Andy Jones
From:
Mississippi
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Posted 16 Jun 2013 6:20 am
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I tend to believe the novice player might use vibrato as a means to compensate for inaccurate bar placement.However,the good players certainly use vibrato to enhance the quality of their playing.For my taste,well-timed skillful vibrato really adds flavor to a tune.
The late Bro.Herby Wallace had the prettiest vibrato I had ever heard.JMHO
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 16 Jun 2013 7:56 am
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Vibrato is a personal expression, but it should suit the music. Then there are times when no vibrato works. I'm speaking strictly from a non-pedal perspective, though--I realize that the type of vibrato that I might like to use is basically shunned or forbidden by pedal players. I learned that from Jeff Newman on a videotape, where he said something like, "You don't want your vibrato to sound like this, it's too Hawaiian...." or something to that effect. Needless to say, that was the last time I looked at that video.
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Ray Montee
From:
Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 16 Jun 2013 8:42 am THANKS for your responses
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I have to agree with the both of you.
That's why I was so taken back by some of those earlier comments on how one should just aim for the area of the fret as they are only markers and then use vibrato to narrow down any error and finally get it in tune.
Personally, I was musically shocked at such a remark.
THANKS for bolstering my perhaps outdated, point of view. |
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Bent Romnes
From:
London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 16 Jun 2013 5:08 pm
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Ray, IMHO, you have to shoot for accurate bar placement on the fret. I, like you, don't believe that vibrato should be used to cover up or compensate for faulty bar placement. My all time favorite teacher in the world, Jeff Newman, taught us to treat vibrato as an enhancement of the note and also use it for more sustain. Also, I remember him telling us to "feel" the song by trying to time the vibrato to the beat and speed of the song. It really works!
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Josh Yenne
From:
Sonoma California
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Posted 17 Jun 2013 9:08 am
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Vibrato is probably the most personal of all things on an instrument.... steel especially I'd say.... but even regular guitar.
I think a persons vibrato is part of "their" sound and everyones is a bit different... Jerry Garcia being a great example on 6 string... his left hand shook the entire time he was playing and you can hear it in the "weeping" tone he had.
Of course being able to play in tune without vibrato is definitely something to strive for... I think vibrato should be more about feeling, sustain, effect rather than "oh god... must get this in tune"
(although we'd be liars if anyone said they have never used it for that!)
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Colm Chomicky
From:
Kansas, (Prairie Village)
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