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Topic: George L's cables |
Abe Levy
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California, USA
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Posted 1 May 2013 3:51 pm |
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Wow. I have been having a helluva time getting ANY high end out of my push pull or my shobud. Tried many amps but both guitars were just muddy. I replaced cables, volume pedal, but eventually just figured I own a couple of lemons with no tone.
Then I got George L's cables. I really didnt think it would make any difference. i was wrong. Man, I cannot believe the difference. Now I have to dial the highs way back. My guitars sound awesome. No lemons here, just bad cables! Ill never play through anything else. How did I ever play without them? |
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Jim Eller
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Kodak, TN (Michigan transplant)
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Posted 1 May 2013 4:15 pm
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I have always used George L's. Now I've gone to the Mike Brown(Peavey) three cable setup and that made a bigger difference(for me anyway). It was REALLY noticeable.
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 2 May 2013 2:11 am
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I made the "discovery" years ago. I was using my own made cables with Belden 8412 cable and Switchcraft plugs. I bought some George L's at St Louis when they first came out. I couldn't believe how much better they were over the "old reliable" Belden cable.
I've used George L's exclusively since the mid 80's when they came out. |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Jim Eller
From:
Kodak, TN (Michigan transplant)
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Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 2 May 2013 8:31 am
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Mike, take note that you need an amp or rig with a line in/out arrangement to use the three cord hookup. No way to implement it with a single-input amp rig. Many of the later Peavey amps have front panel pre-eq in and out jacks just for this purpose. The idea is to let the initial amp input see the full load from the pickup, before volume pedal attenuation.
Other than limited frustration with the right-angle connectors, I've been a fan of George L's cable for many years.
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Roger Crawford
From:
Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 2 May 2013 10:08 am
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Mark, there is a George L 90 now that is a
push-in/set screw connection like the straight plugs. No more worries about the end cap coming loose. |
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Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 2 May 2013 2:27 pm
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Yes, I've seen 'em Roger, just can't find where to get 'em, and reluctant to retrofit the 15 or so cords I have!
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Bill Ferguson
From:
Milton, FL USA
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Posted 2 May 2013 3:18 pm
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Well Mark, wish I had known this when you were at my house. I am a George L's dealer.
Takes about 1 minute each to swap to the new plugs. Get in touch with me. I will let you sample one.
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Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Bill Ferguson
From:
Milton, FL USA
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Posted 3 May 2013 5:35 am
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Sadly, there were not enough sales of these items and George L's has discontinue them.
I just sold the last ones that I have.
Bill Ferguson
Last edited by Bill Ferguson on 6 May 2013 7:52 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Jim Pitman
From:
Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA
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Posted 3 May 2013 10:57 am
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| Beleive or not it's science. The George L's are lower capacitance. A pickup and it's cable as well as the input impedance of an amp form a low pass filter whose upper corner location is quite affected by the cable capacitance. |
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Jim Eller
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Kodak, TN (Michigan transplant)
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Posted 3 May 2013 1:38 pm
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| Jim Pitman wrote: |
| Beleive or not it's science. The George L's are lower capacitance. A pickup and it's cable as well as the input impedance of an amp form a low pass filter whose upper corner location is quite affected by the cable capacitance. |
 OK!! I guess. |
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Cartwright Thompson
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Posted 3 May 2013 3:41 pm
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Cartwright Thompson
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Cartwright Thompson
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Posted 3 May 2013 3:45 pm
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Good old Billy Lorento, a.k.a. Willi Lorenz Stich.
Who's the good lookin' dude on the left? |
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Keith Currie
From:
Shellbrook, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 4 May 2013 2:52 pm
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| Why will my volume pedal not work at all in the pre-eq jacks on my Nashville 400 |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 4 May 2013 4:02 pm
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Just a guess, and maybe a truck driver should wait for the electronics wizards to step in, but I'm guessing there's a problem in the switching jacks of the loop, and it's not recognizing that a plug is in the return jack.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Keith Currie
From:
Shellbrook, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 4 May 2013 5:00 pm
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| Best guess so far Lane and sounds like it could be something like that, never used it before so maybe it never worked, I thought I used a delay pedal in it but might have been another amp. |
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Bill Nevins
From:
st.charles,Missouri, USA
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Posted 5 May 2013 5:46 am
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| Hey Keith,is that what they call the three cord hookup.I remember hooking up like that once with two cords,felt real stupid when I realized what was wrong.. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 5 May 2013 6:05 am
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Keith, you are running
Guitar-Amp input.
Pre-EQ out-volume pedal in
Volume pedal out - pre-EQ return?
If that's your path, it should work.
You didn't specify what kind of volume pedal. If an active pedal, you DO have its power supply plugged in?
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Keith Currie
From:
Shellbrook, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 5 May 2013 6:45 am
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| No I am using three cords, I have tried it before got to be something wrong in there. Lane the pedal is a franklin pot pedal. |
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Bill Ferguson
From:
Milton, FL USA
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Posted 6 May 2013 7:53 am
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Sadly, there were not enough sales of the Master Series and George L's has discontinue them.
I just sold the last ones that I have.
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 6 May 2013 9:03 am
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If all three cables work as part of a two-cable rig, I'd suspect the jack.
On the loop return, the jack has a switch function: with nothing in the return, signal flows as normal, but when something gets plugged in, a switch closes and the EQ section gets fed what comes in the return. If the switching doesn't work, the EQ section gets what would come along direct, ignoring the signal on the cable.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Keith Currie
From:
Shellbrook, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 6 May 2013 3:32 pm
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| Guess I will have to pull it apart and have a look, I tried my delay pedal there and nothing from it either so got something messed up in there. Thanks Lane for the input. |
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