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Topic: Webb Pierce ~ New Panhandle Rag |
Roger Shackelton
From: MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 20 May 2013 11:26 pm
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Here's An Early Vocal Version Of "Panhandle Rag" By Webb Pierce, Recorded On June 27, 1957 At Bradley's Film & Recording Studio, 804 16th Ave. South, Nashville, TN - Webb Pierce, *w. Mildred Kirkham (+ Hank Garland [guitar], Harold Bradley [guitar], Lightnin Chance [bass], Buddy Harman [drums], Owen Bradley [piano] + Jordanaires)
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Alvin Blaine
From: Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Posted 20 May 2013 11:53 pm
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I like how they do the original Leon McAuliffe changes on the bridge, VI I II V, instead of the Jerry Byrd changes, VI I VI I II V.
Everyone I play with always does the Byrd version with an extra 4 chord and quick 2 to a 5. I'm always telling them it only goes to the 4 chord once, then a long 2 to the 5.
The long 2 chord, like on the original Panhandle Rag, gives some dissonance and tension in the melody, that's just missing on other version.
I wonder if Merle Travis wrote these lyrics, like he did for other instrumentals of the time? _________________ http://www.oldbluesound.com/about.htm
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Eddie Cunningham
From: Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 21 May 2013 1:00 pm Older "Original record" ??
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Any one know who played steel on Webs older original version of Pan.rag ?? It was a non-pedal steel . |
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Herb Steiner
From: Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 21 May 2013 3:41 pm
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Joaquin cut two versions (different solos) of NPR with Smokey Rogers. I know I have one here, and I think the other got swiped out of my car since it was in the CD player the thieves seemed to desire.
Both versions had the bridge as
The solos are some of the best Joaquin ever. I'll try to post what I've found. _________________ My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Brint Hannay
From: Maryland, USA
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Posted 21 May 2013 3:47 pm
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Herb posted while I was typing.
What I hear on the bridge in the Webb version posted is
4, 4, 1, 1, 4, 4, 5, 5
just like what Herb posted.
I'm not hearing a 2 chord. ![Confused](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) |
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Herb Steiner
From: Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 21 May 2013 3:51 pm
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The Leon McAuliffe version bridge is
_________________ My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
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Alvin Blaine
From: Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Posted 21 May 2013 5:04 pm
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Brint Hannay wrote: |
Herb posted while I was typing.
What I hear on the bridge in the Webb version posted is
4, 4, 1, 1, 4, 4, 5, 5
just like what Herb posted.
I'm not hearing a 2 chord. ![Confused](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) |
Your right Web does do the 4 instead of the 2. I think I've got to where I just always try and hear the II that now it's there in my mind all the time.
I still like the II, even though I think I do have one of the Joaquin version Herb is talking about and just anything Joaquin did was great no matter what the changes are. _________________ http://www.oldbluesound.com/about.htm
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Herb Steiner
From: Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 21 May 2013 5:20 pm
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Alvin Blaine wrote: |
... and just anything Joaquin did was great no matter what the changes are. |
You got THAT right, Alvin! ![Cool](images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) _________________ My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
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Les Anderson
From: The Great White North
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Posted 22 May 2013 3:22 pm
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I am going to try to get in touch with Kyle Rhodes. His father, Bobby C Rhodes, traveled with Web Pierce for a number of years. He will more than likely be able to fill us all in on how the tune was played on the steel. Bobby C Rhodes carried his S8 Gibson Console and a Sho-Bud when he traveled with Pierce.
Kyle Rhodes also has some wild stories from his father about Web Pierce and his antics, good and bad. |
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