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Topic: ''momentary switches'' |
Robbie Bossert
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Posted 13 Apr 2013 10:36 pm |
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I understand that there was an article posted awhile back on how to install a ''momentary switche'' on your steel guitar. Love the sound of that effect. Can anyone explain how to go about hookin' one up?
Thanks,
RObbie Bossert
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Georg Sørtun
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Posted 14 Apr 2013 1:50 am
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| Mmmm, it depends on what type of momentary switch you want, and what you want to do with it. |
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Olli Haavisto
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Posted 14 Apr 2013 3:04 am
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Stutter switch maybe ?
A momentary on/off....
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Lane Gray
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Posted 14 Apr 2013 3:05 am
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If you mean a "stutter switch," either:
buy a "normally closed" switch, and run the signal through it, so that hitting the switch opens the circuit, or;
buy a "normally open" switch with one side signal and one side to ground, so that hitting the switch shorts pickup to ground.
I'm sure someone will come along explaining which one is better and why.
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Jerry Jones
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Posted 14 Apr 2013 4:51 am
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Some have described it as a "tone on - tone off" switch. That, you could do with the momentary (normally off) switch, and a capacitor/resistor to ground. Like an instantaneous "Boo Wah".
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 14 Apr 2013 5:02 am
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Yes, a momentary tone switch for the wah effect and a momentary on/off switch for the machine gun effect.
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Jerry Overstreet
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Louisville Ky
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Robbie Bossert
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WESCOSVILLE,PA,U.S.A.
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Posted 14 Apr 2013 9:05 am
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Thanks Guys. @ Jerry J. YES! That's exactly what I'm after. If you've ever heard Lee Jeffriess on Loser's Blues", That's a perfect example of what I'd like to do. Do the guy's use push button ot toggle switches?
RObbie
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 14 Apr 2013 9:13 am
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It strikes me that a push button would work better in that situation, a toggle seems awkward.
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Jerry Jones
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Posted 14 Apr 2013 9:32 am
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I would use a push-button also. If you're going to activate it by hand, make sure you get a switch with a short stroke - not like some of the heavy duty traditional foot switches.
If you build it into a small box to attach to the leg, you could use a pot rather than a resistor......that way, you're not stuck with tone=10 or tone=0.
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 14 Apr 2013 9:43 am
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A spring loaded push button switch that doesn't lock into down position.
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 14 Apr 2013 9:52 am
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http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PB-147/10A-MOMENTARY-PUSHBUTTON-SPST-N.O./1.html
Olli, that's what momentarily means. Your average hardware store also sells them, I have one in my pickup to energize my starter solenoid (the damn gear stripped, I can turn the truck on, but it won't click over to the start position)
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Clete Ritta
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San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 14 Apr 2013 12:00 pm
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A push button like on the old video arcade games would work well.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 14 Apr 2013 3:56 pm
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Ordinary doorbell switches are good for this application, as they are small and come in many different colors and sizes, and are also easy to push.
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Peter Harris
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South Australia, Australia
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Posted 15 Apr 2013 5:02 am
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
Ordinary doorbell switches are good for this application, as they are small and come in many different colors and sizes, and are also easy to push.
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Right there you're talking about a 'normally open' (N/O) switch...that may NOT be what you're after.. most electronics stores (even in Australia) would sell push button switches that have 4 terminals...one pair normally open, one pair normally closed..
..I would think that's probably where you could be better heading..depending on what you are trying to achieve.
HTH
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Rick Barnhart
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 15 Apr 2013 5:36 am
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My Clinesmith console has a stutter switch. So far, it's a novelty for me. It's my understanding the switch attempts to emulate a bar bounce effect. I haven't attempted to do any actual bar bounce stutters, my luck I'll drop it on the guitar. Not riskin' it! Lol
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Pete Burak
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Portland, OR USA
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 15 Apr 2013 7:04 am
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Over the years I have found dozens of momentary on--off buttons on eBay. I use them to fill the extra holes often found on endplates.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 15 Apr 2013 7:45 am
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[quote="Peter Harris
Right there you're talking about a 'normally open' (N/O) switch...that may NOT be what you're after.. most electronics stores (even in Australia) would sell push button switches that have 4 terminals...one pair normally open, one pair normally closed..
..I would think that's probably where you could be better heading..depending on what you are trying to achieve.
HTH[/quote]
Shorting the pickup, or opening the pickup circuit both have the same result - no sound (or no modified tone parameters).  |
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Georg Sørtun
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Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 15 Apr 2013 11:29 am
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
| Shorting the pickup, or opening the pickup circuit both have the same result - no sound (or no modified tone parameters). |
That's correct, in theory and on labs.
In a real world environment it is almost always best to short the PU to kill the sound AND noise. Open circuits are open to environmental noise even if the PU sound gets killed. |
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Peter Harris
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South Australia, Australia
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Posted 16 Apr 2013 4:32 am
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
[quote="Peter Harris
Right there you're talking about a 'normally open' (N/O) switch...that may NOT be what you're after.. most electronics stores (even in Australia) would sell push button switches that have 4 terminals...one pair normally open, one pair normally closed..
..I would think that's probably where you could be better heading..depending on what you are trying to achieve.
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Shorting the pickup, or opening the pickup circuit both have the same result - no sound (or no modified tone parameters). [/quote]
Point taken... at the time I was attempting to illustrate that the doorbell push had only one way of operating.. 
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Karl Fehrenbach
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 19 Apr 2013 6:21 am
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| Absolutely no intenetion to hi-jack this thread, but a big "Thank you" to Pete Burak for the link to loop-master.com. What a treasure trove of accessories for effects switching. Another reason why this forum is so helpful due to the generosity of knowledge by all of its participants. |
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