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Larry Lenhart


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Ponca City, Oklahoma
Post  Posted 3 Apr 2013 11:39 am    
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I recently purchased a Roland cube80 and I like the amp alot. Since it only has one channel, I still have my problem of it handling both steel and guitar...right now I switch out the cables from steel to guitar and have to adjust the tone, volume, which is time consuming and not the best situation, i dont think. So what do you guys do...use an equalizer and run both into that before the amp and set each...any advise is appreciated...i really dont like to drag around 2 amps, but thats the way i have been doing it.
Thanks in advance.
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Jim O. Underwood

 

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Fayetteville, NC
Post  Posted 3 Apr 2013 12:06 pm     Using guitar and steel with Roland Cube 80xl
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The Roland Cube 80xl is a two channel amp with only one instrument input....you could set up a good sound for guitar on one channel and steel on the other and use an A/B switch for the instruments. Then you would only need to push one button for the instrument selection and one for the channel selection on the amp. I still found this tedious and wound up getting another Cube 80xl amp since they don't weigh so much A great little amp....wish it had two inputs, one for each channel.
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Tim Marcus


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San Francisco, CA
Post  Posted 3 Apr 2013 12:14 pm    
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I had the same problem (not with the Cube but with other amps)

that's why I came up with this:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=241360

at 42 pounds, its 26 pounds lighter than carrying 2 Cube XLs around Very Happy
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Robert Daniels


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Chicago, Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 3 Apr 2013 6:59 pm    
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Twin Reverb and a hand truck!
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Dave Hopping


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Aurora, Colorado
Post  Posted 3 Apr 2013 9:45 pm    
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Larry,I think a lot of it depends whether you play six-string standing up or sitting at your steel.If you sit to play six string,you can get by with one channel.The way I do that is first to EQ the amp for steel(in my experience,optimum steel EQ makes six-string sound muffled and bass-heavy).
The six-string signal path is: guitar to a small graphic EQ set to compensate for the amp settings to one side of an A/B box to the volume pedal to the amp.The steel signal path is steel to the other side of the A/B box to the volume pedal.If you have effects and want them to work only on steel,put them between the steel and the A/B box.If you want them to work on both instruments,put them between the A/B box and your volume pedal or in the effects loop if the amp has one.The VP will also work on both instruments,which I like.Volume swells and slowly increasing volume for sustain as a note attenuates do nice things for six-string.
If you stand to play six-string,you just about have to have a two-channel amp like a Twin Reverb or Tim's luscious looking creation.
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Howard Steinberg


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St. Petersburg, Florida , USA
Post  Posted 4 Apr 2013 4:53 am    
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I use a DOD A-B box with steel volume pedal to one side and guitar to Fulltone Fulldrive
Into the other side. I have the amp set clean and use he overdrive pedal to boost volume and add some grit as may be necessary. The A-B box is quite old. I'd guess that some company still makes something like this.
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Paddy Long


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Post  Posted 4 Apr 2013 3:12 pm    
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The Telonics PRE1000 Preamp has got 2 separate channels -- works perfectly for having a 2nd instrument on hand and ready to go without having to adjust anything.
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Butch Mullen

 

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North Carolina, USA 28681
Post  Posted 4 Apr 2013 4:39 pm     electronics
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Don't forget the Vegas 400. My favorite amp.
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Bill L. Wilson


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Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 4 Apr 2013 11:32 pm     What 2channel amp?
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Fender Twin Reverb, w/JBL'S, and I'm splitting it into 2cabinets. I have the cabs built, now I'm waiting on the Tolex, and grill cloth to get here. That son of a gun is like lifting a big ole block of concrete! But some places I play, I just don't have room on stage for a Pro Reverb, and a Session 400.
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Ollin Landers


From:
Willow Springs, NC
Post  Posted 7 Apr 2013 5:35 am    
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There is no need to use another amp and the setup is not complicated you just need a Roland FS-6 foot switch

The cube 80XL is a two channel amp but you also have a SOLO where you can store
a preset for each channel this actually gives you 4 channels

I use the Cube 80XL and I'm very happy.

Here is my setup

I use a Radial Big Shot AB/Y pedal with the steel in one input and a planet wave guitar cable that has the circuit breaker switch built in.

I also use theRoland FS-6 Foot switch.

I set the amp for steel on JC Clean then store that in the preset solo
I set the Lead channel for Tele and store that in the Lead solo
I set the JC Clean for Dobro

Now with the FS-6 foot switch I can select between JC clean/JC clean solo/Lead solo and Lead.

That gives me 4 presets to choose from and I only need 3.

I could get by without the planet waves cable buts it's nice to know the signal is off when I switch Tele and Dobro
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