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Topic: old style emmons cases |
chris ivey
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Posted 30 Mar 2013 6:35 pm |
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what years did emmons supply the round cornered, yellow interior cases?
my first emmons s10 with decal badge and cut tail changer had one (i'm sure it was pre-70). my oldest d10 pp wood bolt-on has one.
anyone know? |
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Jerry Jones
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Franklin, Tenn.
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Posted 30 Mar 2013 8:16 pm
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My 67/68 came in a case like that.....round shoulder, yellow interior.
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Mike Cass
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Posted 30 Mar 2013 11:27 pm
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| we call that the "hope it dont rain" case, and it came out in '67 when Norlin acquired distribution of Emmons guitars for a time. |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 31 Mar 2013 6:45 am
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| mike, do you know about when they would have stopped using them? |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 31 Mar 2013 12:33 pm
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| chris ivey wrote: |
| mike, do you know about when they would have stopped using them? |
Probably when they heard enough stories about guys' guitars falling out the bottoms of the cases while being carried to gigs. 
I had a Sho~Bud crossover and several Emmons guitars with HIDR cases. Not the high point in the history of steel case manufacturing. I've got one in the garage this very day with the bottom corners completely separating from the sides. Which is why I'm looking for a case in "Wanted to Buy" even as I type.
Truth be told, most steel guitars are probably carried from the post office to car, and then to the house and left there in the music/bedroom of the hobbyist steel owner. OE cases for guitars that are gigged by touring professionals might better be considered "consumables."
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 31 Mar 2013 1:38 pm dating?
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that's sad to think of steels as 'interesting little objects' of a delusional hobbyist, when you think about how important they are to a working musician without much funding.
i'm asking about the cases partly as a way to find out about when my steel was made...serial number obliterated long before i got it. early 70's would be the newest, but i think it may be pre-70.
the case in question is pulling apart as you all mention...i use my other cases to haul it.
steel originally was wood fatback w/4 silver/gray levers , bolt-on, wood necks with stock single coil pickups with coil taps..e9 22k-13k and c6 20k-11k
kluson chrome button tuners.
wide spread pedals...actually have sideways 'traction' grooves cut in top of each. i always assumed someone did that after the fact, but...?? |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 31 Mar 2013 1:57 pm
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Chris
Just as a sidebar response to one thing you said, I don't think it's any more sad to think about these steels... the ones that only get taken out of the house once or twice a month to church and stuff... than it is to think about wonderful tools owned by a hobbyist that could be used by professional machinists/mechanics, really. There's plenty of nice steels for everyone to play.
Now, a guy owning a Lloyd Loar mandolin that didn't really play mandolin, and keeping it out of the hands of a serious player, that for me would be a "sad to think of" situation because there's only so many Loars around. But I haven't noticed very many working players out there on Carter Starters and Mavericks. Most everyone around here has a pro quality instrument. And based on the way I've seen a lot of working players handle their guitars... and that's why old steel cases often look like beat-up POS's,... I'd say many hobbyists love their guitars MORE than the in-the-trenches players.
And maybe that's why they're delusional.
Mike would know better than I but I think the fatbacks started in 1969. I got my 'Bud in 1968 with such a case, so I bet that's the year of your guitar. Probably a great sounding horn, that's one of Jay Dee's favorite vintages.
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 31 Mar 2013 2:05 pm
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| agreed, herb. |
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Jerry Jones
From:
Franklin, Tenn.
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Posted 31 Mar 2013 2:11 pm Re: dating?
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| chris ivey wrote: |
| that's sad to think of steels as 'interesting little objects' of a delusional hobbyist, when you think about how important they are to a working musician without much funding. |
I think non-pros are largely funding the whole steel guitar industry at this time....same with 6-strings. They sure keep a lot of manufactures afloat.
Chris, you might check the date code on the pots, unless you think they have been replaced.....could be a clue. Mike Cass will know details of that era. 
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 31 Mar 2013 2:45 pm
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| oh yeah..thanks jerry. |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2013 2:53 pm
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The date codes are not likely to help much. For example, i have found 1964 100K pots on December 1967 Emmons guitars.
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Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Gordy Rex
From:
Southport, NC
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Posted 3 Apr 2013 4:05 pm
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I'm using one of those cases for my 78 PP.... I like it cuz it's light weight... especially compared to my carpeted Zum case..
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Gordy Rex
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