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Duane Keiper

 

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Niagara Falls, New York
Post  Posted 17 Apr 2013 10:19 am    
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I just sold my ZB Retro because the A&B pedals were to far away for my short legs and I just wanted to tell a little story: Soon after I got this guitar I was at Kevin Hatton's house and he was showing me how he tunes by ear. He could take the ringing sound and fine tune it into a fine tone. Something that I would never be able to do. After he finished tuning the guitar he strummed it and I was in shock at the sound that came out of that guitar. I had never heard a pedal steel sound that beautiful ever before. I wondered if this was a very special guitar, or did all Kevins guitars have the same special sound and did Kevin hear the same thing that I did or was it just my imagination. Just then Kevin turned to me and said “Duane if you ever decide to sell this guitar, let me know” and the look on his face and then I knew. If a guitar was ever to be a keeper this one is it. It should be at John's house today. I've gotta say John you've got yourself a great guitar.
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Ian Sutton


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San Francisco, CA
Post  Posted 17 Apr 2013 1:14 pm    
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I've recently weaned myself off of the included sweeteners in my Peterson tuner, and now tune my guitar by ear. To me, my guitar sounds 10x better, especially the BC minor chords.

I likely would have done this sooner, but it took me about three years to make a dent in all the tuning threads on this forum Shocked
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Bud Angelotti


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Larryville, NJ, USA
Post  Posted 17 Apr 2013 1:46 pm    
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It's not your imagination.
I have been shown how to use a tuner and then fine tune by ear, to get the beats out.
The discussions usually revolve around using just intonation or ET, Newman or emmons, or others. Thats where the differences of opinion are. Smile
Yeah the guitar lights up when done "right".
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 17 Apr 2013 2:35 pm    
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I believe you should tune by ear, then check the numbers with a tuner. DON'T RETUNE THE GUITAR, but write down the deviations for each note. Deliberately detune every string, retune by ear (referencing roots to a tuner), writing down the deviations. If they agree (or within a couple cents), program your tuner with your own values, so you can tweak in silence during a set
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Ian Sutton


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San Francisco, CA
Post  Posted 17 Apr 2013 2:39 pm    
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"it was in tune when I brought it home from the store."
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Jim Pitman

 

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Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA
Post  Posted 18 Apr 2013 9:31 am    
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Lane, I've always done what you describe. I make myself a tuning matrix spreadsheet that documents both my copedent and the associated offsets. However, I don't use a Peterson tuner just my old Boss chromatic and reference the matrix chart which I have reduced in size to fit on the inside cover of the Boss.
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