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Ian S. Cameron


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Post  Posted 20 Mar 2013 6:13 pm    
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Tried looking up information on this steel, couldn't seem to find anything conclusive as to whether it's a good steel or just an average one. I'm currently playing a starter model and am looking to upgrade to a steel that I can record/tour with. Is this the one...?

http://www.steelguitarcanada.com/online-store/?wpsc-product=msa-classic-s-10-34
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 20 Mar 2013 6:38 pm    
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The price is a smidge high, but if Al Brisco has gone through it, it should stay trouble-free.
The guitar is a bit heavy, but is built like a tank. The only reason I sold my last MSA was to buy my next MSA.

EDIT: to clarify my price comment, I wouldn't hesitate to pay Al a bit more, as its reliability as well as playability probably went up.
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David Mason


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Cambridge, MD, USA
Post  Posted 20 Mar 2013 6:47 pm    
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Reputable dealer, solid guitar if it's not beat up. There were thousands made, so parts are around. If you're a do-it-yourselfer, or been around a while, you might eventually be able to better that price by $300 - $400, but if the dealer's close by, any work will be easier if it's his sale, for sure. Smile
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chris ivey


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california (deceased)
Post  Posted 20 Mar 2013 9:07 pm    
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just for comparison....there's a nice black one on the 'steels for sale' page for $1000. (which 'would' be a good deal)
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Quentin Hickey

 

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Post  Posted 21 Mar 2013 2:23 am    
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"It plays in tune, sounds good & will give you years of trouble-free service!" You can take that to the bank.

I learnt the hard way that you really have to be careful who you buy from. You wont go wrong with Al Brisco. You wont go wrong with and MSA either especially if it was treated well.
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Larry Bressington

 

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Post  Posted 21 Mar 2013 5:10 am    
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If it's that clean with those levers, it's a great price...The early one's came with just one lever. One lever one's, pull a Grand or so all day long.
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Ian S. Cameron


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Post  Posted 21 Mar 2013 5:29 am    
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Thanks guys! As always I really appreciate the input.
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Bob Carlucci

 

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Candor, New York, USA
Post  Posted 21 Mar 2013 6:30 am    
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I will be the nay sayer here..
That MSA is as solid as any steel ever built, and will outlive you and the guy after you. However, having owned several Mica body and maple body MSA guitars, I can assure you they are not always the best sounding steels. They had some problems with sustain, and were kind of "dark" in my opinion.
I was forever playing with pickups in those days.

The early ones I had were plywood, like the one you linked to, and while bulletproof, they were simply not the best sounding guitars, and did lack sustain. There is a reason why MSA started using all maple later on in the 70's.. The maple/lacquer MSA guitars had the same bulletproof construction as the Mica models, but were much sweeter sounding steels , and had better sustain.. Your milage may vary.. Personally, if I were going to spend that kind of money on a used steel, especially one that old, I would look around, as there are better choices if you want the best sound.
I love the old MSA guitars and played them exclusively for decades.. These days however I feel the earlier mica ones simply did not measure up as well to the later lacquer bodies when tone and sustain were considered. bob
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Jim Pitman

 

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Post  Posted 21 Mar 2013 8:35 am    
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I'm with Bob. Even the lacquer maple body one I owned, a S12U "vintage" was quite dark sounding. Mechanically, it was one of the best in my stable though.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 21 Mar 2013 8:44 am    
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My S-12 must be a rarity. It's positively shrill compared to my Zum
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Jim Pitman

 

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Post  Posted 21 Mar 2013 11:09 am    
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Lane, what model/year is your MSA?
Mine was from around 83 or so. It was called the "The Universal"
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Ian Sutton


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San Francisco, CA
Post  Posted 21 Mar 2013 1:59 pm    
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A few years back I bought a beautiful lacquered MSA Classic S-10 from a fellow forumite and absolutely love it. It came with a BL-705 pickup and I thought it was a bit dark. I replaced it with a George L's E-66 and it's great. In fact, I just ordered a vertical KL kit from Michael Yahl over at PSG parts -- looking forward to lowering those B's.

It's a great guitar, and I've had it apart in pieces for cleaning,it's a fabricator/machinist's dream underneath.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 21 Mar 2013 4:39 pm    
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It's a Classic from 77, I believe. Walnut stained, lacquered (actually Styromica)
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Butch Mullen

 

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Post  Posted 21 Mar 2013 4:58 pm    
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What is styromica????
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 21 Mar 2013 5:28 pm    
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It is a now-withdrawn finish that MSA used while it was on the market.
Harder than lacquer, chosen for the hardness and for its lustre.
Reece told me about the stuff. He must be a good guy to work for: the chap who did his finish work in the 70s came back this century.
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 22 Mar 2013 9:24 am    
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he was reincarnated??
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 22 Mar 2013 4:39 pm    
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Huh? Reece told me last fall the guy who did the finish on my guitar in 76 (I want to say his name was Chuck, but I'm too lazy to dig through my emails) was currently working at MSA. The company got reincarnated, but I think you knew that...
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David Mason


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Post  Posted 23 Mar 2013 3:03 am    
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Lustre?

Chap?!?

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"Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore."



Razz
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