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David Scheidler
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Arizona, USA
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mike nolan
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Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2013 6:01 pm |
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| Arrghhh! What a mess. Might be worth a couple hundred bucks to someone, but way out of line at a grand. |
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Jon Guirl
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Millington TN, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2013 7:33 pm
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Somewhere back in the past, someone told him 'some things are just better left alone'.
I wish he would have listened.
I would love to find an old vintage Sho-Bud single neck just to have earsex with the sound and tone it! |
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Bob Muller
From:
Oregon, USA
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Rob Hamilton
From:
Acton, MA, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2013 8:43 pm OMG, ROTFLMAO, etc.
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| I can hardly catch my breath. That's awesome; thanks for sharing! |
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Jon Guirl
From:
Millington TN, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2013 8:47 pm
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Someone needs to axe him about the pulleys, and how often do you have to change the oil in that thing?  |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 6 Dec 2013 9:18 pm
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Are you guys looking at that Sho-Bud-Carter hybrid as museum piece that has been desecrated? Or as a tool for making music?
A guitar with the vintage Sho-bud sound and modern mechanics might be a real winner. I'd love to see it up close And personal.
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Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Bill L. Wilson
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2013 9:21 pm The Steel Guitar!
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| The only flaw I see, is a little to much solder on the output jack. Everything else is in perfect order. |
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Jackie Anderson
From:
Scarborough, ME
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Posted 6 Dec 2013 9:41 pm
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The end plate and changer pocket on the Bud could have been milled out a lot more nicely, even with hand tools; but otherwise it's a creditable job, and I agree with Mike that the proof of the pudding would be in the playing. Sheesh, guys! Lighten up on the hate! And look at some of Shot Jackson's sacred early work. There may be steel guitars which should be left inviolate, but few Sho-Buds (and I am speaking as a long-time, enthusiastic Sho-Bud player and owner).
Last edited by Jackie Anderson on 6 Dec 2013 10:52 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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John De Maille
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On a Mountain in Upstate Halcottsville, N.Y.
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Posted 6 Dec 2013 10:12 pm
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That undercarriage of that old Marlen looks like the underside of a very old Sears ride on mower I once had. Too many cables and too many pulleys.
The ShoBud, on the other hand, might play well, but, the craftsmanship leaves a lot to be desired. It looks like somebody's skills only went just so far. Too bad, it might have been a decent transpiration. |
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Bob Muller
From:
Oregon, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2013 11:09 pm
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| I am not sure that Marlen had much to do with that guitar. |
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mike nolan
From:
Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2013 11:12 pm
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On the Sho~Bud
I'm looking at the splayed out and/or pinched bell cranks, the changer fingers that look misaligned, and the pull rods that appear to be bolted through the cranks. I am not imagining that everything will pull accurately and consistently. I could be wrong, but I still wouldn't want to have more than a couple hundred bucks in that axe. I have seen a number of "Classic" steels with modern mechanics underneath, that are very well done and a big improvement over the original... I'm OK with that. This guitar has probably not been improved. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 6 Dec 2013 11:59 pm
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Did Len make any cable guitars, and did he do humbuckers?
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 7 Dec 2013 5:02 am
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I'm with some of the others here---I do not take issue with alteration, improvement, innovation, ingenuity. But my bottom line demands craftsmanship. Rod alignment is the first thing catches my eye. Crude milling is another. I might/could be impressed if this appeared to be a job well done. It just doesn't.
"I am legally blind and do not have the use of my right hand"
.......yeah, I could consider a kudo or two if the guy made this claim. But I invented this quote. Don't try to find it on the ebay page. |
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David Scheidler
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2013 7:42 am
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John: Yeah, that Marlen is a real piece of work! I kept looking for the pull cord you'd use to start the thing up...
Jack: The guy with the FrankenBud also routed out the bottom end of the neck to make room for the wider changer. Plus the right end plate is ruined. I believe those two things destroyed the value of the guitar - even if it can be repaired. On the other hand, the keyhead and changer can be replaced, and some of the undercarriage mechanics. Too much work and $$, IMHO, to make it a worthwhile project at his asking price.
Jon: I also take issue with the decal on the right side of the front apron. I doubt it's a Pro I because the pedal pull brackets show room for six pedals, which would make it a model 6139. The knee levers are non-originals (not teardrop style) and look almost homemade. The crooked "The" decal definitely looks added and I thought that "The Pro I" designation showed up on later, squarefront models.
Mike: Yes, I can understand experimentation and modifications on an instrument, too. Although it should be done tastefully with clean and presentable workmanship that doesn't compromise the integrity or value. Sorry, I guess I'm just a silly Sho-Bud purist.
Everyone: I suppose it is very playable and those old pickups were hot! (assuming the electronics are still in good working order). It will be interesting to see how much it sells for. I'd give him $300 just to save it from further decimation and try to restore it. Then it might be worth $1,200 to $1,500. |
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