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Topic: E9 copedant question |
James Wolf
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Georgia
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Posted 11 Mar 2013 1:26 pm |
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| My guitar came with right knee left lowering the b strings. To be honest I've never really used it. I noticed that Other players prefer to raise F#'s to G's. What do you guys prefer? |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 11 Mar 2013 1:47 pm
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It depends on what your musical priorities are. I have that pull in the same place and I wouldn't be without it.
F# to G? I don't see that as a vital change but others will disagree. I do like F# to G#, however, but not in preference to lowering the Bs.
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Greg Cutshaw
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Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2013 4:15 pm
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Both F#'s to G# has a ton of uses as does the B to Bb if you use it for split tuning with the A pedal. Check out some of the tabs on my web site or some recent posts on this subject for lots of these ideas.
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James Wolf
From:
Georgia
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Posted 12 Mar 2013 4:58 am
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2013 7:45 am
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We had a survey a while back. The most common 4th knee lever today does this:
1st string F# to G#
2nd string D# to E
6th string G# to F#
A tunable split gives you a G note on the 6th string when combined with the 2nd pedal (G# to A).
I'm sort of old school on this. I raise the 1st string to G and lower the 6th string to F#. I'm in the minority, though.
The B to Bb is usually on the vertical lever LKV.
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 12 Mar 2013 10:12 am
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It's true that the B-Bb is often on a vertical but, because it's such an important pull for me, I have it on RKL. I have my least-used changes on the LKV as I don't care for that upward movement.
Rather than lowering the 6th a step I favour raising the 7th a step. It's easy to half-pedal my LKV and it gives me a flat-seventh on that string with pedals down.
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Larry Bressington
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Nebraska
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Posted 12 Mar 2013 10:25 am
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I'm in Roger's camp on the thinking...I do franklin on lever 1 and 2. For simplicity reasons, i don't raise string 7, or lower 9 or 6
I have never tried the B's drop as i have all four used up. I can slide back and raise E's for the Dim chord and i can slide up one fret and lower E's for the minor.
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2013 10:32 am
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Naturally, it all depends on what particular things you want to play, which may in turn come from what you've found and gotten used to with what you have.
For example,
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We had a survey a while back. The most common 4th knee lever today does this:
1st string F# to G#
2nd string D# to E
6th string G# to F#
A tunable split gives you a G note on the 6th string when combined with the 2nd pedal (G# to A).
I'm sort of old school on this. I raise the 1st string to G and lower the 6th string to F#. I'm in the minority, though. |
Personally, I have problems with both those concepts. I have the 6th string F# lower and use it a lot. If I had a raise to G and/or G# on the 1st string, I'd want to be able to use it with the pedals-down A chord including the bottom root on the 6th string, so I couldn't combine it with the 6th string F# lower.
(Except on a push-pull!) |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 12 Mar 2013 10:42 am
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My LKV raises 1,2 and 7 (to G#, E and G# respectively). I can keep the root note on string 6 (with pedals down) and get the major 7th on string seven and one!
I really like that option. And, as I said earlier, half-raising LKV with pedals down gives me the flat seventh note on string 7. It's easy to engage and I'm getting a nice tight A7th chord comprising 5, b7 and 1 on strings 8,7 and 6.
If I had to lower the 6th to get that b7 then I'd lose the root note (on 6 with the B pedal pushed).
As I also said earlier, one's preferences are so often schooled by what it is one wants to play.
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