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Topic: Young folks buy the net music, they don't become musicians |
Bo Legg
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Posted 31 Jan 2013 3:56 pm
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When I was real young I remember taking a long trip on a bus and stood for 3 hrs barely out of the rain afraid if I left I would pass by someplace they had food or would smell food and break down and eat and not have enough money to get into the opry.
I did all that to get to watch Chet play one song and I remember it wasn't country but I didn't care.
The problem with Nashville is that nobody down there inspires anyone like that anymore. They just all seem like a bunch of jackasses. |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 31 Jan 2013 4:26 pm
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So then, I guess all those wannabee singers on American Idol, The Voice, and The X-Factor are inspired by stockbrokers and newscasters? |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 31 Jan 2013 4:28 pm
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They are inspired by the sound of their own voice and they wouldn't miss a nail appointment or smoothie to see their favorite star.
I don’t want to be totally unfair to the great steel players in Nashville and say a lot of the problem is that I could watch Chet play one song and I would say to myself Oh wow that’s where and how he does that at least 10 places in the song.
But when I watched a great steel player they look like they move so smooth and slow and play so fast that it looks like they are just faking it along with a pre-recorded solo and you just can’t learn a dang thing by watching them from the cheap seats.
Of course I could get up closer with a $200 ticket but still not close enough to learn much.
So at every Nashville artist’s concert I’ve ever gone to, the only thing I got out of it was listening to the star complaining about the smoke etc. (Ray Price was one of the worst at doing this) and a few new Rock licks from the guitar player. So I finally decided to heck with it and spend the money for music equipment etc. instead. |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 31 Jan 2013 5:17 pm
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Oh now days fans are considered potential killers and the artists have the body guards to prove it,
You can’t get close to them. Everything is for sale from a distance.
When I used to go to the opry way back you felt like you were a part of it you were made to feel welcome.
Now it’s buy an autograph some pictures and a T-shirt and don’t let the door hit you in the …… on the way out.
You pay a lot of money to see your favorite artist perform his songs and instead you get his version of ZZ Top.
At the concert they don’t care if a speaker falls on you but all heck will break lose if the star gets a hangnail.
I’m sorry but to me they are just not all that important in my world.
Then I have to listen to their political views from the stage. That alone should get me a refund.
Like they know more than you because they sing a little and you’re just dying to hear what they think about anything. How about they try a little don’t let the door etc…….
I think a good trade off would be for all the old farts to help these young folks succeed and when they become stars they agree not to make political statements ever.
Last edited by Bo Legg on 31 Jan 2013 5:29 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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David Mason
From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2013 5:20 pm
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There's a certain lack of objectivity and presentation of supporting evidence, here. |
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Steve Branscom
From: Pacific NW
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Posted 31 Jan 2013 5:37 pm
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Feel better, Bo? Have a Snickers _________________ Steve |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 31 Jan 2013 5:43 pm
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I see “objectivity” as a tale told only by idiots.
It is, by definition, something beyond our knowledge.
Usually defined as a state of affairs which holds true regardless of human knowledge or opinion. Objectivity is an oddly shadowy concept.
But no one seems to agree on whether it is the shad of reality or idiocy. |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 31 Jan 2013 6:11 pm
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Bohanky? |
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Stuart Legg
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Posted 31 Jan 2013 6:26 pm
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I'll give you a great example how these folks get so full of themselves that they think we'll just buy whatever they deem a saintly bright morning mist of brilliance in a song.
This video was the doom of Garth because all his songs after that were just another color in that same egotistical color spectrum.
The Red Strokes |
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Jim Bloomfield
From: Colorado, USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2013 7:30 pm
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I had forgotten how awful and cheesy that video was. Thanks for posting, it's good for a laugh. |
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Bill L. Wilson
From: Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2013 9:25 pm The cheezy video
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Garth's video is goofy, but I think he is probably one of the few country music folks I've ever seen, that admited, what he does for a living, is not real work. I never did care for any of his songs, but he's just a good ole boy who, like Toby Keith, still lives here in Oklahoma. I do like Toby's song "I'll never smoke weed with Willie again." |
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Doug Ferguson
From: Burnet, Texas, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2013 8:30 am
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If I had gone to sleep 30 years ago and woke up today I'd think I was on another planet. I'm sure that could probably be said at any point in history though... _________________ Fergy, MSA Classic D12, MSA Classic S10, Peavey Session 500 |
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Bud Angelotti
From: Larryville, NJ, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2013 9:09 am
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Doug - Same planet 30 years later. However ther are more than twice the number of people alive on the face of the earth. That makes more than twice the number of potential customers. _________________ Just 'cause I look stupid, don't mean I'm not. |
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Ron Kirby
From: Nashville TN
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Posted 1 Feb 2013 6:46 pm
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Garth can crank a hit anytime. He knows, who knows! He is a writer and singer and can write..$$ |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 2 Feb 2013 12:16 am
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Next it’ll be “The Green Strokes” or maybe “The Purple Strokes” on and on through the colors till he has a stroke.
These crap all started with him trying to make all the song lyrics mystic ramblings akin to a spreadsheet formula effort at fatalistic non-rhyming poetry as if he were writing a sequel to “Standing too Close to the Flame” even before he became a color serial killer. |
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Stuart Legg
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Posted 2 Feb 2013 12:45 am
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So Bo your distain for objectivity necessitates ambiguity. |
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Theresa Galbraith
From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2013 5:14 am
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I don't think the young players worry.......they're to busy playing music! |
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Ransom Beers
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Posted 2 Feb 2013 5:42 am
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Garth only had one song I ever heard him do & since I've aged a bit I can't even remember the title.I was sold on Mr. Brooks until he started doing what every other performer did.He doesn't appeal to the likes of my generation like the Jones,Haggards,Jacksons'Seares etc.Ok,I'm dun! |
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Ron Kirby
From: Nashville TN
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Posted 2 Feb 2013 6:09 am
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My favorite Garth recording is, "If Tomorrow Never Comes". |
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Jason Rumley
From: Foley, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2013 7:40 am
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There are still young kids who will do that. Sure, there's crappy commercialization that ruins everything but there's still certain genres that inspire my generation.
For instance, the last Hank 3 show I went to was PACKED. All this with no radio airplay, and no mass media. You can't discredit that.
We aren't inspired by the same music that inspired you guys but we are inspired. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." - Charlie Parker |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 2 Feb 2013 8:09 am
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well there is another way to look at this..
many of todays young singers/musicians are inspired by artists that I never heard of...
Just as I was inspired by artists that todays young singers/musicians never heard of... _________________ Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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Bobby Burns
From: Tennessee, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2013 8:23 am
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I think Bo is making some interesting points.
I often wonder, Is the music of today less inspiring, or have I just become jaded. I've been around long enough to hear so much great music, that it's not new and exciting anymore. New music has to "try" harder to really impress me. I've just about heard it all before. Does the old stuff still excite me, just because I remember how it felt when I heard it the first time, and it was all fresh and new to me?
Is today's music any less inspiring, to the young folks who listen too it, than the music that I liked was to me when I was a kid?
There has and always will be lot's of trendy music that sucked. A lot of the music I liked as a kid, wasn't considered all that trendy to a lot of my friends at the time, but there was a lot of trendy stuff back then that I liked, and still like too.
I may be a cynical, jaded old-fart, but calling me a Jackass because I don't spend my hard earned money on trendy music is just disrespectful and rude. |
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Doug Palmer
From: Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2013 8:53 am Today's Music
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If you sing a crappy song, the performance is going to be crappy too. There are not a lot of great songs being written today. Listening to the latest top tunes lyrics sound like 3rd grade Valentine cards. Some guy who can't wait to go on a date sittin' on his tailgate while the music is produced as if he were singing Exodus. You can put more recording technology in a brief case than the Beatles had for Seargent Pepper, so everybody is an artist. I also feel that music videos made the visual more important than the song. When I see a bunch of models running around in lingerie and some redneck in a Gomer hat singing, who's listening to the song? _________________ Emmons D-10, ST-10,LD-10 III, NV-112,Fender Deluxe Reverb. Authorized wholesale dealer musicorp.com! |
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Jason Rumley
From: Foley, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2013 9:43 am Re: Today's Music
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Doug Palmer wrote: |
If you sing a crappy song, the performance is going to be crappy too. There are not a lot of great songs being written today. Listening to the latest top tunes lyrics sound like 3rd grade Valentine cards. Some guy who can't wait to go on a date sittin' on his tailgate while the music is produced as if he were singing Exodus. You can put more recording technology in a brief case than the Beatles had for Seargent Pepper, so everybody is an artist. I also feel that music videos made the visual more important than the song. When I see a bunch of models running around in lingerie and some redneck in a Gomer hat singing, who's listening to the song? |
There hasn't been good POP MUSIC in well over 25 years. But that doesn't mean good music isn't being made, you just have to have an open mind and look for it. There is so much great music out there that you can never listen to it all. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." - Charlie Parker |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 2 Feb 2013 2:37 pm Re: Today's Music
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[quote="Doug Palmer"There are not a lot of great songs being written today. [/quote]
Hey Doug....I'm pretty sure there are some really fines songs being written today..."hearing" them is yet another issue...
The one thing that has always plagued today's music and even yesterdays music, there is only some much time to hear it on radio or TV, if you don't know where to look you can't find it on the net. When the same old same old artists come out with a new release they get automatic airplay... in many cases they should get zero...
100's of releases each week..maybe a couple get heard at best... _________________ Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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