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Topic: Concerning Scotty's 20 solos for non-pedal steel guitar |
John Botofte
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 7:22 am |
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I am the happy owner of this book, but has one question. Scotty is using an abbreviation "R" in several of the pieces, eg. in Steel Guitar Rag, measure 11. Can anyone explain what this "R" stands for? it is not listed in the Tablature Instructions.
Thanks
John
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Peter den Hartogh
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 7:31 am
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In one of his other books an "R" means: quarter Rest.
"RR" is half Rest, "RRRR" is whole Rest. |
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John Botofte
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Denmark
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 7:40 am
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That would make sense, but he also uses dots for rests in "20 solos"
and I don't understand measure 3 in Blue Hawaii:
5 R432
5 431
John
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Jim Cohen
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John Botofte
From:
Denmark
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 8:12 am
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Root doesn't make sense.
Here is a photo:
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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John Botofte
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Denmark
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 8:19 am
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I still doubt it as the final horisontal line in the same measure also indicates rest - as used in his great Mel Bay book for non-pedal.
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John Botofte
From:
Denmark
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 8:34 am
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If it were a rest, why would it be on a different line than the following note:
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Mike Neer
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NJ
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 8:35 am
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I'm going to agree with rest. I believe he used "R" because that particular rest is part of a triplet grouping.
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Mike Neer
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 8:36 am
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If it were a rest, why would it be on a different line than the following note:
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Hmmmm. Could it be "rake", like maybe it's a ghost note?
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Jim Cohen
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 8:43 am
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Well, y'know Scotty is available by email and I'm sure would be happy to answer your question, especially if you direct him to this thread where he can see the pictures you've posted. Try him at scotty-at-scottysmusic-dot-com
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John Botofte
From:
Denmark
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 8:43 am
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I am just a beginner, but how would you play this if it were a "rake".
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John Botofte
From:
Denmark
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 8:45 am
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| "Well, y'know Scotty is available by email and I'm sure would be happy to answer your question, especially if you direct him to this thread where he can see the pictures you've posted. Try him at scotty-at-scottysmusic-dot-com" |
Good idea. I thought this was an easy question, but seems not.
John
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Mike Neer
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NJ
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 8:49 am
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Maybe it means "Rock out!"
Best to email Scotty. Good luck.
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Herb Steiner
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Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 9:42 am
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Maybe it stands for "arrrgh!"
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Peter den Hartogh
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 10:41 am
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In the last pic shown above, that little curve under the Eb mimics a flag of an eighth note.
So this is an 8th Rest.
It could also be interpreted as a tie like the other ties in that particular bar.
The value of the "R" can also be seen by counting the SEVEN notes in the 4/4 bar, which means that the "space" can only have a value of 1/8.
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Andy Sandoval
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Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 11:48 am
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| I agree with rest too. The book also comes with a CD that contains the steel part for each song, which should clear up any confusion. |
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Jerome Hawkes
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Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 1:48 pm
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the R is a REST - thats the way 'diagram tablature' has been written since the 30's. Jerry Byrd's tabs are written this way also.
if you see a - afterwards, its to hold that note for those beats. ie. 2 - - would get 3 total beats.
sometimes (often actually) in steel, the notes are held OVER the bar line which confuses a lot of tab readers.
i would *think* this would be clearly explained in the forward, but maybe not.
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John Botofte
From:
Denmark
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 2:16 pm
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Haven't heard from Scotty but noticed that R in Tabledit is used for Roll.
Anyway, I am just a beginner so thanks for all suggestions.
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Mike Ihde
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Boston, MA
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 11:20 pm
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| Jerome got it right. and "R" equals a rest and "-" means to add a quarter note worth of ring to a note. That's standard tab notation. The curved line between 2 notes is like the beam in standard notation and equals eight notes |
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Mike Ihde
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Boston, MA
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 11:21 pm
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| Jerome got it right. and "R" equals a rest and "-" means to add a quarter note worth of ring to a note. That's standard tab notation. The curved line between 2 notes is like the beam in standard notation and equals eight notes |
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DeWitt Scott
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St. Louis, Missouri, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 9 Jan 2013 11:35 pm
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Hi John,
The R in my arrangements means Rest. If you are reffering to Steel Guitar Rag in the 6 Solos Non-Pedal it is explained in the symbol page. A single R means rest for one count or a quarter rest. Its counted but not played.
The R connected with a half circle connected to the 2 indicates that it is like a eighth not tied to a note making it a full quarter not. You just don't the R.
I hope this explains it.
Regards,
Scotty |
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John Botofte
From:
Denmark
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Posted 10 Jan 2013 1:31 am
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Thanks! It is the only old tabs I got so as a new player I was confused. Great solos by the way.
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