| Author |
Topic: Bakersfield Sound |
Bill Brunt
From:
Texas, USA
|
Posted 27 Dec 2012 3:32 pm |
|
Hypothetically, there is a lap steel player who also likes Buck Owens, Merle Haggard, Moe Bandy, etc.
If there really were such a lap steel player, which tuning might he use to approximate those harmonies?
Does Moe Bandy fit into the Bakersfield sound?
...I know, Jerry Byrd never played Moe Bandy songs 
I am thinking of trading one of my Lap steels for a Fender 400, which I have read is capable of making the changes in those old style songs.
...but if I could do a reasonable job on my Ricky or Remington, I could keep them both. |
|
|
 |
b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
|
Posted 27 Dec 2012 3:42 pm
|
|
You need to use an E6th tuning with a high G# string, and master the reverse slant to get pedal licks. I've played Together Again almost like Brumley on this tuning (low to high): D E G# B C# E G# F#. The 2nd string G# is higher than the 1st string F#. F# will help you play some of the faster licks.
_________________
-𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video |
|
|
|
Mike Neer
From:
NJ
|
Posted 27 Dec 2012 4:19 pm
|
|
I've used E9:
E
B
G#
F#
D
B
If you've got 8 strings, you can always stick a G# on top.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGTB9knbOVc
With this tuning, you can easily get the AB pedal change (minus the top string) using a forward slant. Reverse slants yield an easy I to V7 on the top 3 strings.
_________________
Links to streaming music, websites, YouTube: Links |
|
|
|
Bill Brunt
From:
Texas, USA
|
Posted 27 Dec 2012 5:41 pm
|
|
Thanks, guys.
I will try both.
The Remington Steel has 8, and the Panda has 6.
Mike, I will check your site for lessons on E9.
By the way, I dreamed one night I could play like that, but I woke myself up 'cause my cheeks hurt so bad from grinning too wide.
bOb, do you have a source for tabs for E6th?
Thanks again. |
|
|
|
Jack Aldrich
From:
Washington, USA
|
Posted 27 Dec 2012 6:43 pm
|
|
| b0b wrote: |
| You need to use an E6th tuning with a high G# string, and master the reverse slant to get pedal licks. I've played Together Again almost like Brumley on this tuning (low to high): D E G# B C# E G# F#. The 2nd string G# is higher than the 1st string F#. F# will help you play some of the faster licks. |
When I learned Together Again from Jeff Newman, he had me using full and half pedals AND slants to get what Brumley did on "The long, lonsome nights/ are now at an end", which he claimed was what Tom did. Jeff said that Buck made Tom play an old Fender 400 on the song to see if Tom could cut it. Buck supposedly hired Tom on the spot after the take. - Jack
_________________
Jack Aldrich
Carter & ShoBud D10's
D8 & T8 Stringmaster
Rickenbacher B6
3 Resonator guitars
Asher Alan Akaka Special SN 6
Canopus D8 |
|
|
|
Jack Aldrich
From:
Washington, USA
|
Posted 27 Dec 2012 6:45 pm
|
|
Oh - you really need pedals to play West coast steel ala Ralph Mooney, Tom Brumley, Sneaky Pete, or Norm Hamlett. - Jack
_________________
Jack Aldrich
Carter & ShoBud D10's
D8 & T8 Stringmaster
Rickenbacher B6
3 Resonator guitars
Asher Alan Akaka Special SN 6
Canopus D8 |
|
|
|
Bill Brunt
From:
Texas, USA
|
Posted 27 Dec 2012 7:29 pm
|
|
Thanks, Jack.
...
...so do you have an old Fender 500 you'd trade for another B6  |
|
|
|
Jerome Hawkes
From:
Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
|
Posted 28 Dec 2012 5:35 am
|
|
most steelers dont realize how big a Jerry Byrd fan Tom was - he studied the non-pedal intensively and it came out in his pedal playing. a lot of the first generation pedal players were like that. my buddy Billy Knowles was good friends of Toms and he said it surprised him when he would call, Tom would always be playing his old 7-string Ric B7 - thats the instrument he loved to play although everyone wanted to hear him on pedals.
to bad (to my knowledge) there are no non-pedal recordings of him
_________________
'65 Sho-Bud D-10 Permanent • '54 Fender Dual-8 • Clinesmith T-8 • '38 Ric Bakelite • '92 Emmons D-10 Legrande II |
|
|
|
Jack Aldrich
From:
Washington, USA
|
Posted 28 Dec 2012 10:38 am
|
|
| Bill Brunt wrote: |
Thanks, Jack.
...
...so do you have an old Fender 500 you'd trade for another B6 |
Nope. I have my old ShoBud ProIII D10 (8/4) and my Carter (8/5) for pedal steel, and a bunch of 6 and 8 string non-pedal steels, of which my D8 Fender Stringmaster (C13/B11) is used most of the time. - Jack
_________________
Jack Aldrich
Carter & ShoBud D10's
D8 & T8 Stringmaster
Rickenbacher B6
3 Resonator guitars
Asher Alan Akaka Special SN 6
Canopus D8 |
|
|
|
Jack Aldrich
From:
Washington, USA
|
Posted 28 Dec 2012 10:41 am
|
|
| Jerome Hawkes wrote: |
most steelers dont realize how big a Jerry Byrd fan Tom was - he studied the non-pedal intensively and it came out in his pedal playing. a lot of the first generation pedal players were like that. my buddy Billy Knowles was good friends of Toms and he said it surprised him when he would call, Tom would always be playing his old 7-string Ric B7 - thats the instrument he loved to play although everyone wanted to hear him on pedals.
to bad (to my knowledge) there are no non-pedal recordings of him |
I found that, after working really hard on my non-pedal steel playing and taking lessons from Alan Akaka (we worked 6 weeks on my left hand) that my pedal steel playing improved vastly. Tom is/was one of my steel heros, btw. - Jack
_________________
Jack Aldrich
Carter & ShoBud D10's
D8 & T8 Stringmaster
Rickenbacher B6
3 Resonator guitars
Asher Alan Akaka Special SN 6
Canopus D8 |
|
|
|
