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Topic: C Pedal Change |
Mike Moffitt
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South Carolina
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Posted 30 Dec 2012 8:27 am |
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| Thinking of changing the c pedal so it raises 1st string ala Mooney,,any comments on what I would be losing,as I seldom use the b-c pedal combo.,and love the sound of the first string raise I have heard on a friends steel. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 31 Dec 2012 8:18 am
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| I have that change on a knee lever along with 7th string raise. |
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Jeff Scott Brown
From:
O'Fallon Missouri, USA
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Posted 31 Dec 2012 8:36 am Re: C Pedal Change
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| Mike Moffitt wrote: |
| Thinking of changing the c pedal so it raises 1st string ala Mooney,,any comments on what I would be losing,as I seldom use the b-c pedal combo.,and love the sound of the first string raise I have heard on a friends steel. |
I didn't realize that a Mooney pedal raises the 1st string. There are comments at http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=299466#299466 which state that the Mooney pedal lowers 3rd G# to G and raises the 6th G# to A. I have a pedal which does this (P5 at http://tinyurl.com/jeffsCopedent).
Is there agreement on what a Mooney pedal does and if so, what is that?
JSB
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 1 Jan 2013 1:50 pm
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I don't think there's a concensus on what a "Mooney pedal" might be, other than having the 4th string E to F# by itself, either on a pedal or lever. Seems players are always thinking that they need a special setup to play Mooney-style, but IMHO, it's more of a mindset (style) than it is some special tuning setup or pedal. If you can't think like Moon, no pedal or tuning will do a whole lot to help you to play like him. I'd guess that probably 98% of everything he ever did can be done on the standard 3+2 E9th setup.
A playing style (like Moon's) comes mostly from the player, not from a special tuning or instrument. 
Probably over 90% of the pros still have the C pedal, so I'd think very carefully before eliminating it. |
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Jeff Keyton
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 1 Jan 2013 4:07 pm
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I am far from an expert on this and steel playing, but have been very interested in pursuing this sound while sticking with basically a Nashville E9 tuning. From what I've found on the forum, Norm Hamlet (search for his posts) has a pedal for Mooney stuff (maybe located at "O") that flats string #3 a 1/2 step (same tone as raising 1st string a 1/2) and raises string #7 a 1/2 step. That get's a Mooney lick. Also, if you have a lever or pedal that'll raise string #4 by itself: that get's (to me) the essential Moon lick. And, it is very versatile with other pedal and lever combo's: either by itself in "0" position, or with A+F, or with A+B pedals.
With good blocking (not that mine is) you can get similar type of sounds with the B+C combination. Somewhere on youtube is a clip of Ernest Tubb with Emmons on steel, can't remember the song, maybe a version of "Walking the Floor" but seems that he's copping a Mooney type feel on his solo using the BC combo. I tried losing the 5th string raise on the C pedal but like many others on the forum, went back to the standard setting for it. 4th string change is currently on the "V" lever. |
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Mike Moffitt
From:
South Carolina
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Posted 1 Jan 2013 7:49 pm C Pedal Change
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When I mentioned the Mooney lever I didn't mean it as the lever,I meant the sound,as the standard e9th is set up,pulling the 1st string with the finger,to raise it,for some of the Mooney licks.
I have cut my finger a number of times,lol,thats why I was thinking of putting that one step 1st string raise on the very seldom used--by me--of the c pedal. |
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