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Eric Philippsen


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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2012 4:29 am    
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One of the many gaps in my knowledge of Emmons is when they first started making S10s. I pretty sure those came on the market several years after the first D10's. For example, I've never seen or heard of a bolt-on S10. What's the story, please?

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Jerome Hawkes


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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2012 5:52 am    
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they made S10s from the start, i've seen a few wraparounds and quite a few more bolt-ons. many were originally 6 pedals and no knees, though most have been converted by now. the S10's have the beefier C6 changers on them due to the small cab.

i had a great early '66 bolt on S-10.
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Chris Lucker

 

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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2012 11:11 am    
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I believe they started making single necks after the first year and a half of making guitars -- not from the start. I know of all but four of the first 27 Emmons guitars made, and that covers production from January 1964 through June or July of 1965. It is hard to give a month on the last guitars because Emmons stopped putting the month and year and number in the serial number in May 1965 with #23, as far as I can tell.

To put it another way, there were no single neck Wraparounds made with the first or second serial number styles. Wraparound singles started with the invoice number serial numbers which started in early Summer 1965.

I would guess that the single 10s started about the time the second versions of the Bolt-Ons appeared in Fall 1965 as a way to use up Wraparound parts. Emmons made Wraparound singles while they were making the second versions of the Bolt-ons in D-10 formats. Wraparound single necks did not have the same cabinet issues that some D10 Wraparounds had because of the single necks had aprons on both sides of the Wraparound changer.
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Eric Philippsen


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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2012 2:57 pm    
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Thanks for the great info. I really appreciate it.

I have a D-10 bolt-on which has that tone. Now that I know there are S-10 bolt-ons out there I'll set my sights on finding one, maybe working out some kind of trade deal or whatever involving one of the later push/pulls i have.
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Jerome Hawkes


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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2012 3:29 pm    
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Yeah, Mike Cass, who restored my 66 said it was a milled wraparound / bolt-on neck (something like that, i cant recall the exact term) likely from early 66. I had heard, but can't confim - that a large order for s-10 / 6 pedal steels was placed thru a Hawaiian conservatory in Canada in '65-66 and that's why you often see these oddballs. Matter of fact every early s10 I've seen was originally 6 pedals / no knees. I also noticed - esp on mine, that they run a little short, at 6'1", I always felt cramped under that S. I've say behind later models that didn't feel that way, so it kind of goes with the theory many of them were for a conservatory/ younger players.
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Chris Lucker

 

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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2012 3:38 pm    
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A few years ago I got a big pile of Wraparound style pedals and Wraparound style pedal rods from Al Briscoe as he has converted a lot of those -- what was then -- student model six pedal single neck Wraparounds into 3/4 guitars.
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Nick Reed


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Russellville, KY USA
Post  Posted 16 Dec 2012 1:06 am    
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Here's my BOLT-ON S-10. Built in 1966.

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