Pack-a-seat too low?

Alex Cattaneo · From: Quebec, Canada

Someone in my neck of the woods is selling a pack-a-seat, which is pretty incredibly rare in my area. First time I see one in fact. Thing is, it's 21" high, and I need at least 22". What can I do to make it fit? Change the legs? How much would that set me back?

Rick Barnhart · From: Arizona, USA

1 inch, hmmmm, if it were me, I'd first consider an additional cushion of some sort. If that isn't viable, maybe some type of leg riser...think crutch tips. Idk, just a thought.
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Erv Niehaus · From: Litchfield, MN, USA

You can put some 1" blocks where the legs attach to the base of the seat.

Rick Barnhart · From: Arizona, USA

Tom Wolverton · From: Carpinteria, CA

I ended up epoxy-ing in some dowels inside the tubes and putting a cap on the end. Works well.
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John Swain · From: Winchester, Va

Alex, all the above are good ideas...You have to see the way the pack seat is built to decide how to add an inch.Adding onto the legs may inhibit folding it up...I've found on some you can add 1x pine spacer between the top and the cushion(see pics-spacer btw blue tape). Another factor is cushion firmness(how far you sink into it)My Steeler's Choice and my SteelSeat Lite appear the same height(21") but I sit an inch taller on SS Lite because of the firmer cushion,ERGO you could just change the foam! JS

Howard Steinberg · From: St. Petersburg, Florida , USA

I may be wrong but I think that 21" may be standard height for a pack seat. I think that John's idea for a higher cushion is a good bet. The late pianist Errol Garner was a short man who used to play sitting on the Manhattan yellow pages. I think a cushion would be more comfortable.
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Charles Davidson · From: Phenix City Alabama, USA

What Erv said. Did that to an Emmons seat I bought about twenty years ago. Still use it. YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.
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Tony Williamson · From: North Carolina, USA

carry you around a 25x25 piece of one inch plywood. plop the legs down on it. sit. Very Happy

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Brian McGaughey · From: Orcas Island, WA USA

Aluminum "short" with wood interior dowel fastened with pan head screws and a lab foot for good measure.

Micky Byrne · From: United Kingdom (deceased)

Erv...great thinking there and the easy way to do it Very Happy

Micky Byrne U.K.

Erv Niehaus · From: Litchfield, MN, USA

Micky,
This subject reminds me of a story.
The old farmer was having trouble getting his mule in the barn because he kept brushing his ears on the mantle of the door.
He was planning to jack up the barn.
His neighbor suggested just digging out a bit under the door.
The old farmer said that the trouble was with the mule's ears, not his hoofs. Laughing

Gary Cosden · From: Florida, USA

Obviously there are several ways to do this. I had an old sho-bud seat that I raised with 3/4" blocks and it worked out well. If you go this route you will also need new bolts for the extra height as well as a block for the retainer for the legs. If I had it to do over again I would probably do something very similar to what Brian McGaughey is showing in his post. A simple elegant solution.
And by the way - if you ever do but a new seat I highly recommend the height adjustment option offered by Steelseat.com. Every seat should have one!

Randy Brown · From: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA

On my Steeler's Choice seat, I used some threaded inserts and adjustable feet, from Alliance express, to raise it up.

http://www.alliance-express.com/round-plastic-threaded-inserts

Here are the parts I used:
LRT1140A (round insert, 1" O.D. guage 18)
AFB1015A (adjustable foot, 1" base, 2" long bolt for adjustment)

The parts themselves came to about $9, but Alliance has a $15 minimum order, plus shipping costs. You might consider buying enough for 2 seats (to meet the minimum order) and reselling the other set.

I've had these on my seat for over a year now, and it works GREAT! It looks very professional and the feet are adjustable which is handy if the floor is not level.

Alex Cattaneo · From: Quebec, Canada

Yes! Thanks Randy, that's a perfect solution.

Bruce W Heffner · From: Payson, Arizona

This is a great idea from Randy. The only other way to do it cleanly is to order the seat with the taller legs or post order a set of legs which can get pricey. For me, with an Emmons guitar the 1", taller really is an advantage; however, with a Carter or a Magnum the standard height is better. Thanks again Randy.

Bruce W
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Randy Brown · From: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA

I snapped a couple of pictures in case anyone is curious.

Gene Jones · From: Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)

My first professional steel seat was too high...but I had been used to various seats like beer cases on folding chairs, so I just used it until, viola, one day it felt comfortable.
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Bruce W Heffner · From: Payson, Arizona

I received the inserts you referenced LRT1140A. Did you have to persuade them to go in? If so, did you beat them in, open the tube up or shave the diameter of the inserts? The inserts are at least .010 larger than Rollans black plugs. Before I get radical please advise.

Thanks,

Bruce
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Randy Brown · From: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA

Bruce, they were snug. I did have to tap them in gently with a hammer, but nothing radical. I didn't have to modify anything. Perhaps the legs on your seat have a different wall thickness than mine.

Gary Preston · From: Columbus, Ohio, USA

Guys me being a fabricator it appears that Brian has the best idea of all and looks stronger and a better support for the player . Look how neat it looks and simple to do . All the stress will be on the add on and not on the wood inside . G.P.

Jim Bates · From: Alvin, Texas, USA

So you pac-a-seat builders can now add that option.

Thanx,
Jim

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