| Author |
Topic: Learning tunings by intervals |
Mike Neer
From:
NJ
|
|
|
 |
Jerome Hawkes
From:
Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
|
Posted 11 Dec 2012 10:02 am |
|
this is great mike -
i really dont think anyone picking up steel will get very far without understanding this "theory". once you realize that tunings are mostly a stack of maj 3ds / min 3ds / and a maj 2 thrown in somewhere, it makes the head game a little easier.
learning the interval stack is MUCH easier than trying to transpose in your head
_________________
'65 Sho-Bud D-10 Permanent • '54 Fender Dual-8 • Clinesmith T-8 • '38 Ric Bakelite • '92 Emmons D-10 Legrande II |
|
|
|
Paul Seager
From:
Augsburg, Germany
|
Posted 11 Dec 2012 10:34 am
|
|
This is a very good article Mike. This is basically how I have been trying to teach myself the fretboard and as I have said before on this forum, I come from a bass-playing background and tend to think in movable patterns.
By applying this to other tunings you've taken this one step further and solved another problem for me.
If I ever have a reason to pass through NJ, I will defintely be booking some time with you.
\ Paul
_________________
\paul
Bayern Hawaiians: https://www.youtube.com/@diebayernhawaiians3062
Other stuff: https://www.youtube.com/@paulseager3796/videos |
|
|
|
Steve Ahola
From:
Concord, California
|
Posted 11 Dec 2012 11:27 am
|
|
| Paul Seager wrote: |
| If I ever have a reason to pass through NJ, I will defintely be booking some time with you. |
I was just wondering if Mike is doing lessons via Skype these days? It seems to be getting more popular...
Steve Ahola
P.S. Another great article, Mike!
_________________
www.blueguitar.org
Recordings on electric guitar:
http://www.box.net/blue-diamonds
http://www.box.net/the-culprits |
|
|
|
Clyde Mattocks
From:
Kinston, North Carolina, USA
|
Posted 11 Dec 2012 12:04 pm
|
|
Right on with early recognizing of intervals as the way to go. I was fortunate with the late Kenny Dail as my teacher. I would take lessons from him every Wednesday on his three neck Fender. We would learn a tune, then play it on all three tunings. That way, the difference in the tunings imprinted the concept of intervals as the formost thing to visualize when working your way thru a song.
_________________
LeGrande II, Nash. 112, Fender Twin Tone Master, Session 400, Harlow Dobro, R.Q.Jones Dobro |
|
|
|
Andy Henriksen
From:
Michigan, USA
|
Posted 11 Dec 2012 12:26 pm
|
|
great lesson!
My only comment, as a total noob myself, is regarding this:
| Quote: |
When can do the same thing for strings 2 and 3, which are a minor 3rd apart (now our major 3rds will have to be played one fret higher):
E|——————————————————
C|—–0—–2—–4—–5—–7—–9——11——12–
A|–0—–2—–3—–5—–7—–8—–10——12——
G|——————————————————
E|——————————————————
C|——————————————————
The 2 previous examples were in the key of C. |
It would probably be clearer to start the diagram with the harmonized 3rd build on the root, e.g. frets 3&4, and have the harmonized scale go up to frets 15&16.
Oh, and change "when" to "we." 
Seriously, though, reading through that helped quite a bit. I just love this stuff! |
|
|
|
Jerome Hawkes
From:
Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
|
Posted 11 Dec 2012 1:18 pm
|
|
Clyde - Kenny would be happy to know his wonderful old '37 Ric b6 is still being played. I was just working on 'Kohala March' the other night on it and had the biggest grin - I swear, that steel already knows every Jerry Byrd tune ever recorded. I'll try to learn them on my Clinesmith and they fight me the whole time - then I pick up that Ric and they just flow like water...Like they are pre-loaded...that's a spooky steel...I never have to touch the tuning and you know how squirrelly b6s are.
...but back on topic - once you learn those intervals and then how to invert them, ie maj 3ds become min 6ths, etc - then you have 75% of the homework done.
_________________
'65 Sho-Bud D-10 Permanent • '54 Fender Dual-8 • Clinesmith T-8 • '38 Ric Bakelite • '92 Emmons D-10 Legrande II |
|
|
|
James Nottage
From:
Indiana, USA
|
Posted 11 Dec 2012 2:40 pm
|
|
Mike:
Very nice. I am slow to figure out and understand these things, but your approach is education and effective. Thank you so much!
James
_________________
Clinesmith S-8; Pettingill P6; Rick-Style Vintage 47 Amp |
|
|
|
Jeff Au Hoy
From:
Honolulu, Hawai'i
|
Posted 11 Dec 2012 2:48 pm
|
|
| This is great! I would have never thought to lay things out this way. Very clear, makes sense! |
|
|
|
Mike Neer
From:
NJ
|
Posted 11 Dec 2012 3:02 pm
|
|
Jeff, don't think for a moment that I believe you. 
Andy, there's a reason I posted the way I did which I will get to in the next installment. And by the way, I didn't proofread it--I was busy proofreading something else while I was writing this at my proofreading job.
_________________
Links to streaming music, websites, YouTube: Links |
|
|
|
Jeff Au Hoy
From:
Honolulu, Hawai'i
|
Posted 11 Dec 2012 3:29 pm
|
|
| I'm serious! I guess I've gotten by guessing "okay with this kind of interval, the major scale goes straight slant slant straight straight slant...." etc. But I would not be able to explain it as clearly as you have here. |
|
|
|
Andy Henriksen
From:
Michigan, USA
|
Posted 12 Dec 2012 5:10 am
|
|
| Mike Neer wrote: |
Jeff, don't think for a moment that I believe you.
Andy, there's a reason I posted the way I did which I will get to in the next installment. |
3rds below the melody, instead of 3rds above? I thought about that after I posted my comment...
Either way, looking forward to the next one! |
|
|
|
Stephen Abruzzo
From:
Philly, PA
|
Posted 12 Dec 2012 9:45 am
|
|
| Great stuff as always Mike. Thanks. Helps to speed up the learning curve. |
|
|
|
Mike Neer
From:
NJ
|
|
|
|
