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Topic: Anyone have Proco Rat Settings |
Keenan Friday
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Magnolia, Arkansas, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2012 12:34 am |
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I was wondering what settings some of yall use for this pedal with steel. The instructions show recommended settings (i assume to be for electric guitar) but have had especial difficulty in setting the filter control and then knowing at what volume the pedal should be set in relation to steel. Thx in advance for comments and replies.
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Keenan Friday
Mullen Pre Royal D-10, Walker Stereo Steel, Hilton pedal, George L cables, Livesteel Strings, (White) Fred Kelly thumbpick, Dunlop .025 fingerpicks |
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Mark van Allen
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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2012 11:20 am
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Honestly, Keenan, your'e going to get the most mileage by experimenting extensively in different environments, i.e.: in practice and onstage if you perform. The output level should be set to give you the balance you desire between having the effect off and on, some people want a volume boost with the fuzz, and others prefer it a bit lower in volume (which prompts you to drive the fuzz harder via picking or volume pedal). There are many subtleties to overdrive or fuzz use. Listening to a recorded sound you like and trying to emulate the sound and characteristics helps. Also try the pedal both before and after your volume pedal.
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Roger Francis
From:
kokomo,Indiana, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2012 5:48 pm
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To add to what Mark has stated the filter is darker counter clock wise, I run my dist between 9 and 10 and same with the filter, I saw Joe wrights settings in St Louis and his were all 12 o'clock, when you get in the mix of the band things change from being in the music room. I usually don't mess with mine till we get ready to play then I tweek if I half too
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Rittenberry SD10, 2 nashville 112s with telonics speaker, behringer EPQ450 power amp, 705 pups, Telonics FP-100, live steel strings, mogami cords, wet reverb |
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Roger Miller
From:
Cedar Falls, Ia.
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Posted 8 Dec 2012 12:36 pm
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| Whether I use my old rusty Rat or my 80's, I usually run on Dist.9:00 Tone wide open and Vol about 1:00 or 2:00 oclock. This sounds as a lightly pushed Marshal, and seems to work with most of my guitars, steel and 6 string. |
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2012 6:57 pm
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| The Rat series are actually to my ear a better overdrive for a steel than the Tube Screamer types, different chip, different way of doing things. The "tone" is a filter that takes away some nasty high end rasp. That's essentially the same thing that a long, high capacitance cable, a room full of bodies (live, hopefully) and a darker, "PA"-type speaker will all do, so - it depends. |
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Chris Bauer
From:
Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2012 5:42 am
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| All good advice here. Plus, remember that not only were there different models of Rat, but each model changed a bit over time. So, if you had two side by side, your settings might well change. As with anything, go for what your ears like. |
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 9 Dec 2012 5:53 am
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As you can see, it is impossible to tell you anything much beyond 'find your own good sounds' but...
...any and all distortion/overdrive devices will change dramatically depending on the level of signal you feed it. You may find the perfect sound today at home and have it sound like crap tonight on the stand because your volume pedal level is different.
If you can find the sound you like with the VP full-on, then you can control final output to the amp with the vol control of the Rat and achieve consistent results from day to day. If your sweet spot is with the pedal half-cocked...half-cocked is what you will need to reproduce that sound.
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Keenan Friday
From:
Magnolia, Arkansas, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2012 8:48 pm
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Thanks for the suggestions. It will take experimenting with it to get it right. Maybe i have a good starting point at least.
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Keenan Friday
Mullen Pre Royal D-10, Walker Stereo Steel, Hilton pedal, George L cables, Livesteel Strings, (White) Fred Kelly thumbpick, Dunlop .025 fingerpicks |
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Marty Rifkin
From:
Santa Monica, CA
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Posted 10 Dec 2012 9:10 am
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Hey Keenan...I've always used Rat pedals for distortion. They're a bit fussy (not just fuzzy!) so I keep it on a tray connected to the leg of the steel. I can easily adjust it without reaching down on the floor. Like Mark, I keep it plugged in before the volume pedal so the amount of distortion stays the same no matter how loud the solo is.
I find that the key of the song and where the guitarists play (low E chord position verses capo-ed higher chords) affects what my tone settings are. I can change the tone on the fly with the pedal at hand level.
You may want to fool around with experimenting how and where you pick the strings to find other tonal changes with the pedal on. You get more "bite" when you play with the corner of the finger pick as opposed to the tip of the pick. |
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