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Topic: New Here & New to the Pedal Steel |
Peter Mosco
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North Carolina, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2012 10:36 am |
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Hello Members,
My Name is Peter. I am new here and new to playing pedal steel guitar. But not so new to the resonator guitar. I have been playing Dobro/Reso steel for 27 yrs. I finnally got a D10 with 8 pedal & 6 knee levers.
It has no name on it at all. I looked everywhere! The only thing marked are the pedals that say SK 125 on the bottom. I attached a few photos hoping maybe someone knows this particular guitar.
Any help I can get from forum members would be appreciated. also a copedant for this type would be helpful. Warning! this is the start of my flood gate of questions....Help 
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Georg Sørtun
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Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 7 Dec 2012 10:41 am
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That's a Dekley 
This manual should follow it, and may answer some of your questions. |
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John Ely
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Minneapolis Minnesota, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2012 11:15 am
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Peter, you might want to work with the Forum "Search" function at the top right of the page. For your copedent questions you could type in "copedent" or "E9 copedent" or "C6 copedent" to find previous discussions of the topics you're interested in.
Good luck,
John
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Jason Putnam
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2012 12:04 pm
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Good Luck with the new steel. I wanted a Dekley but decided to get a Zum Stage One to learn on. I don't know what it is, but I just love the look of Dekley Steels. Ive never heard one, But love the look!! Wonder what happened to the logo?
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Dave Grafe
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Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 7 Dec 2012 2:46 pm
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| I tried to work out the copedant from the photo of the under carriage but so far it seems to be a quasi-Day setup with several pedals working both necks. Not a standard system that I recognize, but then I'm not much of an expert on Dekleys.... |
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Peter Mosco
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2012 6:38 pm
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Thanks everyone for the great feedback and support,
So, You guys think it's Dekley. Mine sure looks like the rendering in the O/M Also Thanks to Georg Sørtun for the manual. |
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 7 Dec 2012 10:50 pm
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It's definitely a Deckley fretboard. It looks like Deckley body. Are the pedals in the shape of the letter D? If so, congratultions. You have one of the best steel guitars out there.
Deckley's are wonderful instruments. You may want another steel at some point, a spare, or something lighter, but you will never need one. This one will last forever.
Judging from the undercarriage, it looks like it has an Emmons setup.
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Bobby Bowman
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Cypress, Texas, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Dec 2012 11:50 pm set up?
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It is an Emmons set up.
Those extra bell cranks that looks like the pedal works both necks are rod guide support cranks.
BB
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Brett Day
From:
Pickens, SC
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Posted 7 Dec 2012 11:56 pm
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Welcome to the wonderful world of pedal steel guitar, Peter. You will love playing this beautiful instrument! The more you play, the more you will love it! The key to learning songs is practice things like scales, chords, pick techniques, bar techniques, familiarizing yourself with the pedals and knee levers. And practice hard because this is a great way to come up with your own style, and if you make a mistake, don't worry because all steel players make mistakes.
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richard burton
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Britain
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Posted 8 Dec 2012 1:40 am
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I can't help noticing how well-engineered the Dekley is, especially after looking at the manual.
It looks like someone with a production engineering background had a big input in the design of these steels.
It makes the undercarriages of some pedal steels of the same era look a bit silly  |
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Mike Wheeler
From:
Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2012 7:56 am
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I second Mike P's statements. I own a Deckley and they are rock solid guitars with features that make it a pleasure to play and very easy to work on. The tone is excellent! And I also own an Emmons, MCI and an MSA, and have owned many others in the past, so I have some perspective regarding tone.
The ONLY drawback, to me, is that they are a little heavy. But I think that contributes to their wonderful tonal response.
You have an excellent steel, Peter. You have all the guitar you'll need to become a pro player.
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Ray Anderson
From:
Jenkins, Kentucky USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2012 8:31 am
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I have one of these and they are "tone machines". If you were to change setups make sure you use premium quality allen wrenches as the cheaper ones will round out the screw, and the drilling begins....not fun at all. Replace the set screws with a different type of fastener for easier changes later on. Welcome to the forum and the world of Pedal Steel Guitar, this is a great place and evrybody is willing to help.  |
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Peter Mosco
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North Carolina, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2012 8:41 am Happy Camper
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Boy do I feel fortunate to have such support! Judging by the comments on my guitar, I feel fortunate to have stumbled on to it at a great price!
Emmons setup huh? I guess I'll have to look into that.
I did notice that while watching a beginner video (for six string guitar players)on Steel Guitar.com That my KR1 (E<Eb) is actual the video instructor's (s10 3pedal 4 levers) KL2 (E<Eb).
of course it will take time to grip all of this. My head is whirling right now. (In a good way)
Does anyone have a suggestion as to where I can get a logo name tag for my Dekley? |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 8 Dec 2012 9:53 am Re: set up?
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| Bobby Bowman wrote: |
It is an Emmons set up.
Those extra bell cranks that looks like the pedal works both necks are rod guide support cranks.
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Bobby, is it that, or are they the cross shafts of *KLs that are working on both necks? It looks like they pull one string on the back neck and 2 on the E9
Peter, if you go down to the "Wanted to buy" section of the classifieds and ask, someone might have a decal
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 8 Dec 2012 10:22 am Re: Happy Camper
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| Peter Mosco wrote: |
Does anyone have a suggestion as to where I can get a logo name tag for my Dekley? |
You might have to live without one. Dekley went out of business back in the 80s, for reasons that had nothing to do with the quality of their guitars, and the founder/owner recently passed away.
If however, you ever need a part for the undercarriage, Michael Yahl makes replacement parts for steels that are no longer being manufactured.
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Georg Sørtun
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Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 8 Dec 2012 10:44 am
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On my Dekley D10, that has only 4 knee levers, both right knee levers operate changes on both the E9 and the C6 neck. More levers on Peter's Dekley, and looks like some of those levers operate on both necks.
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| If you were to change setups make sure you use premium quality allen wrenches as the cheaper ones will round out the screw, and the drilling begins....not fun at all. |
Second that. I still haven't been able to modify the RKR pulls on mine (one year after I bought it) for fear that the set screws should be damaged. Will give it another try, with good tools, next month.
Apart from that a Dekley is one of the easiest PSGs to modify copedent on. Have played around with setup on my Dekley S10 for 30 years. |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 8 Dec 2012 11:54 am
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It looks like the E raises and lowers are on different knees. This is one of those things where there is no right or wrong way to do it. Some prefer this setup, while others (including me) prefer to have those changes on the same knee.
My advise is to not change anything. You have a lot to learn, and instead of tinkering with the setup, you should find a teacher, or get an instruction book or course, and start practicing.
After you've been playing a while, you will probably want to experiment with different setups. But for now, work with what you have and learn as much as possible.
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Bud Angelotti
From:
Larryville, NJ, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2012 6:08 pm
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Hey Pete - Is that a banjo in the corner of your photo of the steel? You best not use that thing if your gonna be a steel player! 
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Peter Mosco
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2012 12:00 pm
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| Bud Angelotti wrote: |
| Hey Pete - Is that a banjo in the corner of your photo of the steel? You best not use that thing if your gonna be a steel player! |
Hey Bud, I can't help it...I have been playing banjo and Dobro for over 35 years. I have been building and repairing them 10 yrs. My web site is http://maconstringedinstrumentco.com/ I build world class resonator guitar that sound and look like any 3K to 8K Reso guitar out there. Mine start at $900.00. for laminate birch and solid wood ones at $1800.00.
Here's a photo of a solid maple "Cowee Model" LW body That just got done.
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