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Steve Pawlak
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Posted 27 Nov 2012 7:02 pm |
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I know this is steel forum but a note to all pickers that Jimi Hendrix would have turned 70 today. I got to see him play a couple of times when I was in high school.
Jimi wrote the book - Nobody has passed the course |
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Roual Ranes
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Posted 27 Nov 2012 7:53 pm
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john widgren
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Wilton CT
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Posted 27 Nov 2012 8:10 pm Jimi
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Jimi changed the world of guitar and of music.... changed it in ways that previously were unimagined. Genius. His impact will have reprecussions as long as humans have ears minds and souls.
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 27 Nov 2012 8:21 pm
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This probably belongs in Music and not Steel Players.  |
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Wally Moyers
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Posted 27 Nov 2012 9:42 pm Re: Jimi
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| Steve Pawlak wrote: |
I know this is steel forum but a note to all pickers that Jimi Hendrix would have turned 70 today. I got to see him play a couple of times when I was in high school.
Jimi wrote the book - Nobody has passed the course |
I'm with you Steve! |
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Charles Davidson
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Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2012 11:35 pm
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Several years ago Guitar Player mag had an issue that had the top 100 guitar players. Jimi was voted number one. After all these years still scratching my head over that one. I made a living and raised a family playing sixstring for over thirty years,so I feel I have earned the right to express my opinion about guitarist,I would not have him in the top 100 period,Here is a FEW he was up against,[Hank Garland,Les Paul,John McLaughlin,Roy Buchanan,Dickey Betts,Chet Atkins,Danny Gatton,Randy Rhodes,Bola Sete,Carl Kress,Charlie Byrd,Charlie Christian,Django Reinhardt,George Benson.These guys were musicians not noise makers.Sorry Jimi fans he was'nt in the same class as MANY other pickers were. I guess he was kind of like Willie,The more %$#@% up you are the better they sound.  YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.
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Mike Perlowin
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Posted 27 Nov 2012 11:57 pm
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| Charles Davidson wrote: |
| Hank Garland,Les Paul,John McLaughlin,Roy Buchanan,Dickey Betts,Chet Atkins,Danny Gatton,Randy Rhodes,Bola Sete,Carl Kress,Charlie Byrd,Charlie Christian,Django Reinhardt,George Benson. |
Charlie, don't you realize that Hendrix invented music? Those guys you mentioned, and everybody else that came before him including Segovia, Wes, Grady Martin, Jim Hall, Mozart, Beethoven, Miles Davis, and John Coletrane don't count.
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Charles Davidson
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Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 12:27 am
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Mike,Guess you got a point there,Chester and Lester may have never made it if not for Jimi.  YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.
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Roual Ranes
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 4:31 am
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Say that Jim......I. He was animate about that.
By the way Grady gave us distortion on a record. |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 5:54 am
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Have you just scrolled through youtube and viewed the large numbers of not well know guitar players that are every bit as good or better than any mentioned here so far.
It's just like PSG. The bar has been set so high that you have to be a pronominal player to even get a mention now days. |
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Wally Moyers
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Lubbock, Texas
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 5:56 am
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Charles,
I agree that most of those guitar players are more advanced than Jimi was. As a 15 year old third generation musician I was blown away the first time I heard Purple Haze.... I have never been as excited by anything since even though I have heard much better guitar players since that day in Dallas Texas in 1968... I think it's all time and place... Another comparable musical event for me was hearing Lloyd Maines play blazing rock solos on Pedal Steel live with Joe Ely in 1976... Both were life changing musical events for me... The thing they had in common was high energy creativity.
When I introduced music to my sons, I played them Jimi Hendrix, Buddy Emmons and the Beatles.. I also played them other players and bands of their day so they could understand what innovators they truly were in their time...
On the other hand, a band that some people think was the greatest was Creedence Clearwater. In my opinion, they were just a bad country band... I had grown up seeing my Dad play with great country players so I knew the difference. |
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J Fletcher
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 8:10 am
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| Count me in as a member of the "Hendrix was a brilliant innovator" school of thought. Don't like the live stuff much though. Just heard "Wind Cries Mary" on the radio on the weekend, it's timeless. He was at his best in the studio I think. |
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Gary Cosden
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 8:20 am
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| My view is that you simply cannot appreciate the importance and overall significance of Jimi Hendrix unless you lived through the era in which he recorded and released his music. Hendrix had a greater impact on popular music than just about anyone else you could name. The fact that there are numerous videos online of young players with outrageous skills has no meaning or impact in this discussion. Before Hendrix it would have been so much noise. His music brought about popular acceptance of harmonic devices that just weren't there before his appearance on the scene. If anything the fact that others have built on his legacy so successfully proves my point. |
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b0b
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 8:37 am
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Once you reach a certain level of proficiency on your instrument, it doesn't matter how good you are. The people who vote in those polls can't tell the difference.
Jimi is #1 because his influence on the art of rock guitar is iconic. He was the pivotal point in a sea change, imitated by millions of aspiring guitarists, even today. It's not really about his chops; it's about his art.
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Mike Neer
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 8:43 am
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Well said, Bob.
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Joachim Kettner
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 8:57 am
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| J Fletcher wrote: |
| Just heard "Wind Cries Mary" on the radio on the weekend, it's timeless. |
I never grow tired of this.
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Olli Haavisto
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 9:02 am
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Taking these best guitarist polls seriously is bit like being upset about Miss USA every year, saying that Marilyn is better looking...
edit. Wind Cries Mary and many other beautiful ballads like Little Wing and Axis are the side of Jimi that many people are not aware of. My favorites...
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Doug Beaumier
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 9:14 am
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Very true, b0b. Jimi is #1 in those polls because of his huge influence on the world of guitar and his contribution to our culture.
I've been teaching guitar full time for 35 years, and almost every student I've ever had, from youngster to teen to older... knows who Jimi is. He's iconic. His sound and his look are instantly recognizable, and still exciting after 45 years.
By the way, George Harrison also ranked very high in that Rolling Stone poll. Again, not because he was a fabulous player or a technical genius on the guitar, but because of his influence on aspiring guitarists, on the music world, and on our culture.
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Mark van Allen
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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 2:18 pm
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| The thing I can't figure out is how they keep coming up with new material to release? |
There's plenty more studio tracks, workups, and jams to release, but the vast majority is stuff from late '69 to mid '70 and virtually all of it is stuff that Jimi would never have let out, being of merely marginal quality for him. But even his junk tops most peoples award winning efforts of the last few decades... at least in my opinion, and millions of others which includes any of his HoF contemporaries one might name. |
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David Mason
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 3:43 pm
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My favorite album by a decent margin was the last one under his direct control, "The Cry of Love." Some of those tracks were re-smooshed together with others to make the "First Rays of the New Rising Sun" CD but the core tracks of "Knight Bird Flying", "EZY Ryder", "Drifting", "Astro Man", "Angel" - rowf.
And trying to compare anyone post-Hendrix TO Hendrix involves excising the Hendrix DNA from that player's own? The only guitarists who can claim that are the ones like Danny Gatton and Jimmie Vaughan who willfully grew up in a pre-Beatles bubble of their own choosing. And as far as the obvious classification of him as a howling, obnoxious sex & drug maniac* - well sure! if you only listen to the radio. But he was as thoroughly sick of "Purple Haze" and "Hey Joe" as anyone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX7AmCTnczM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvd54w0vGJg
Quick quiz: how many guitar channels are in the above song? And how many Marshall stacks turned to earbleed status did he use? Cause that sound like a Twin Reverb to me, and a lot cleaner one than anything on current country songs. If you can put on your best church headphones and crawl out of that song unimpressed, well I never.
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Mike Neer
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 4:18 pm
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My favorite album by a decent margin was the last one under his direct control, "The Cry of Love." Some of those tracks were re-smooshed together with others to make the "First Rays of the New Rising Sun" CD but the core tracks of "Knight Bird Flying", "EZY Ryder", "Drifting", "Astro Man", "Angel" - rowf.
And trying to compare anyone post-Hendrix TO Hendrix involves excising the Hendrix DNA from that player's own? The only guitarists who can claim that are the ones like Danny Gatton and Jimmie Vaughan who willfully grew up in a pre-Beatles bubble of their own choosing. And as far as the obvious classification of him as a howling, obnoxious sex & drug maniac* - well sure! if you only listen to the radio. But he was as thoroughly sick of "Purple Haze" and "Hey Joe" as anyone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX7AmCTnczM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvd54w0vGJg
Quick quiz: how many guitar channels are in the above song? And how many Marshall stacks turned to earbleed status did he use? Cause that sound like a Twin Reverb to me, and a lot cleaner one than anything on current country songs. If you can put on your best church headphones and crawl out of that song unimpressed, well I never.
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Jimmie Vaughan was actually a Hendrix disciple; in fact, he knew Jimi and one night lent him his wah pedal, which Jimi broke and replaced with one of his own, which Jimmie still owns.
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Charles Davidson
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Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 5:17 pm
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Seems most of you guys think Jimi is the greatest thing to happen to the guitar since the Strobe tuner.Sorry I can't share your enthusiasm,But no big deal,EACH of your opinions is just as IMPORTANT and valid as mine or anyone elses. Personally I never thought of him as a legitimate player compared to many of his peers.Believe it or not I HAD to learn a few of his tunes back in the 70's.Worked a long time on post at FORT benning Ga. at an EM club called Crain Hall three nights a week,Our audience was 18 and 19 year old recruits,You HAD to play Hendrix and CCR to keep your job.We would do a reasonable facsimile of a few Hendrix tunes and get by.[A working musician with a couple of rug rats at home will do what he has to]About the best analogy I can think of about Jimi being the number ONE guitarist would be to have a poll naming the number one male vocalist of the last 50 or 60 years with guys like Sinatra ,Andy Williams,Tony Bennett,Bing Crosby,Perry Como,etc And low and behold who is voted number one ? Envelope please. IT'S TINY TIM   YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.
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Roual Ranes
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Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 7:45 pm
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Bet JIMI couldn't play Folsom Prison Blues like Luther............  |
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 29 Nov 2012 6:45 am
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Hey, Don't you know, you my bro' Bama Charlie ! ?
you jes' ain't never left yer swamp
it's a shame you did'nt catch Jimi back when he played at the Café Wha in the Big City
he were'nt even famous ...........Amos !
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