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Topic: Chuck Berry on Steel |
CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Ron Castle
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Posted 23 Nov 2012 4:56 am hail hail R&R |
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| Thats a terrific documentary- recommend everyone watch it if it comes around. |
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Archie Nicol R.I.P.
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Ayrshire, Scotland
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Posted 23 Nov 2012 3:33 pm
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I thought Keith was ready to smack him over the head with his guitar at one point. A case of being let down by your hero.
click here
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Marco Schouten
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Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 23 Nov 2012 4:28 pm
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Love it
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Dennis Smith
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Covington, Georgia, USA
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Posted 25 Nov 2012 11:33 am
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Hi CrowBear, thanks for the clip and the song. I was watching youtube last night and was thinking of the credit part of Hail and Chuck playing the blues on steel. I didn't know of the song but liked that also.
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Jason Rumley
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Foley, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 25 Nov 2012 11:41 am
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I never knew he fiddled around on steel! And he's not too bad either! Thanks!
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Roger Rettig
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Posted 25 Nov 2012 12:44 pm
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I had that single back in '57 and I played it until it was worn out - I can see that purple coloured label spinning 'round now. I never gave any thought to what he was playing it on at the time - I wouldn't have known, anyway, as I didn't even play 6-string when I first heard it.
Thanks for the link - that's the first time I've heard it in maybe forty years! As is so often the case with a well-loved recording I found that I knew every nuance of it before it happened! Much enjoyed!
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Jerry Overstreet
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Louisville Ky
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Posted 25 Nov 2012 2:52 pm
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Seen that documentary a few times on PBS over several years. It's a great one. The first time I saw the closing with Chuck on steel, I was thrilled. Then I went back and looked at some of my old discs and found some of the ones mentioned as well as "Mad Lad".
Steel is steel, no matter how you present it and I love to hear everyone's expression and take on it. |
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Paul Sutherland
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Placerville, California
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Posted 25 Nov 2012 11:44 pm
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| All 3 videos are really interesting and fun to watch. Thanks for posting. |
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David Mason
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Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2012 1:01 pm
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Well, Keith Richards describes him as a c*nt, and he did get quite pervy in his golden years. And he did spend two years doing hard time for "smuggling" his 13-year-old Spanish teacher across state lines.
But he got to observe Jerry Lee Lewis marry his 13-year-old cousin (his third wife - at 22!), and observe Elvis "chaperone" Priscella at 15. Then he got to watch Elvis, the Beatles, the Beach Boys and quite surely the Rolling Stones make millions off his licks. He could still support himself as long as he toured incessantly. There's another telling point in that movie, when Eric Clapton tells Berry that he had bought the exact same kind of guitar that Berry had used on such and so single, that fat Gibson that he's playing. And Berry just gives him this dead-eye stare. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 27 Nov 2012 3:54 pm
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From what i had understood, Keith, offered & produced the whole shabang to " Crazylegs " for his 60th birthday in St Lou
that's a lot of $$$ for "c---t" would'nt you say ?
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| In 1986, Taylor Hackford made a documentary film, Hail! Hail! Rock 'n' Roll, of a celebration concert for Berry's sixtieth birthday, organized by Keith Richards, in which Berry reveals his bitterness at the fame and financial success that Richards achieved on the back of Berry's songs |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Berry |
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David Mason
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Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2012 10:31 pm
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Mr. Richards is not one to take it as well as dishing it out. He showed a great amount of restraint - respect surely, maybe a whiff of "White Guilt" too. Also, he was the leader of the band, and had to keep it together till the concert - failure would land in his lap. But at the concert, Berry threw out all the arrangements and started changing keys... not till then did Keith decide the guy really was just a jerk.
However, I wouldn't even want to know went on in his head. He was already 30 years old when he began writing all the teeny high school songs, some root cynicism required. But sitting in a jail cell, hearing about Elvis & Jerry Lee Lewis "getting away" with what he saw as the exact same thing that he'd done. And shortly after his release from prison this comes on the radio, a #1 hit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbRKfieMsdQ
Kinda hard to say if it rips off the melodies and arrangement of "Sweet Little Sixteen" worse than it rips off the town-naming trick of "Back in the USA".... (itself lifted from "Route 66" and mined again for "By the Time I get to Phoenix"). Is "Maybelline" really "Ida Red?" I doubt his burning dipsh%tery was helped much by the Beatles' "Back in the U.S.S.R" or Keith's own comment that Berry'd never played a lick that Keith hadn't stolen... he was flat burned OUT of "gratitude." |
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 29 Nov 2012 5:47 am
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i read you loud & clear David
Crazylegs pulled of a lot of jive indeed during his decades of fame
his biography is a must read imo
times were not easy on black folks back then when....-
imagine sittin' in the can & hearin' someone coppin' yer stuff
that'll put a hole in yer butt won't it ?
some do's & some dues
Chuck did made it in the time capsule w: "JBG"
he definitely marked the "époque" w: some great lyrics
even if one can hear T Bone, Louis Jordan & Nat King Cole
we all have our influences & heroes ... 
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Brad Bechtel
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San Francisco, CA
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Posted 29 Nov 2012 8:03 am
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| David Mason wrote: |
And shortly after his release from prison this comes on the radio, a #1 hit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbRKfieMsdQ
Kinda hard to say if it rips off the melodies and arrangement of "Sweet Little Sixteen" worse than it rips off the town-naming trick of "Back in the USA".... (itself lifted from "Route 66" and mined again for "By the Time I get to Phoenix"). Is "Maybelline" really "Ida Red?" I doubt his burning dipsh%tery was helped much by the Beatles' "Back in the U.S.S.R" or Keith's own comment that Berry'd never played a lick that Keith hadn't stolen... he was flat burned OUT of "gratitude." |
From the Wikipedia article on "Surfin' USA":
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When the single was released in 1963, the record listed Brian Wilson as the sole composer although the song was published by Arc Music, Chuck Berry's publisher. Later releases, beginning with Best of The Beach Boys in 1966, listed Chuck Berry as the songwriter. Later releases list both writers although the copyright has always been owned, since 1963, by Arc Music. Under pressure from Berry's publisher, Wilson's father and manager, Murry Wilson, had given the copyright, including Brian Wilson's lyrics, to Arc Music.
Despite tensions with Berry over the controversy at the time, Carl Wilson said the Beach Boys "ran into Chuck Berry in Copenhagen and he told us he loves 'Surfin' USA'." |
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