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Topic: How long do you have to play pedal steel before... |
Curt Trisko
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St. Paul, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2012 3:57 pm |
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Jeff Scott Brown
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O'Fallon Missouri, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2012 4:00 pm Re: How long do you have to play pedal steel before...
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| Curt Trisko wrote: |
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I don't think you ever have to have played one at all to have an opinion on it.
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Bill Moran
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Virginia, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2012 4:13 pm
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Might take 20 years before you know what your talking about ! 
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John Scanlon
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Jackson, Mississippi, USA
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Bo Legg
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Posted 20 Nov 2012 4:51 pm
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Just owning a PSG brings you out of wimpy into realm of arrogance.
You have an obligation not to let the rest of us down by failing to voice an attitude as opposed to an ineffectual opinion.  |
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Roual Ranes
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Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2012 5:22 pm
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| You can have one the first day...........but you will change it. You get one door open and there are forty behind it. |
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Bob Blair
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 20 Nov 2012 5:50 pm
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| It doesn't matter - as soon as you express on someone even less qualified than you think you are will tell you you are wrong! Which I think might be the point you are making. A point well taken. |
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Quentin Hickey
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Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 20 Nov 2012 6:16 pm
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Mark Dershaw
From:
Arizona and Ohio
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Posted 20 Nov 2012 6:36 pm
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| Is this a BH thread? Makes the same amount of sense... |
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 20 Nov 2012 7:11 pm
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If one did not have an opinion on it, why on earth should one want to play one in the first place?  |
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 4:51 am
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like any instrument, at least 10 years
even then, you're still better off asking & listening
the only opinion yer allowed is whether you like pickin' the darn thing or not
if not, Hang it up ! 
Just remember what mama said :
" you keep on goin' if yer sure you're right ! "
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Quentin Hickey
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Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 5:46 am
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Stephen Silver
From:
Asheville, NC
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 7:13 am
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As Malcolm Gladwell professes, it's not the years you work to achieve competency, it's the number of hours spent. His hypothesis is that it takes a minimum of 10,000 hours to achieve anything worthwhile and be competent.
Read his book....he makes sense on the subject.
So, say you practice 4 hours a day, every day, no days off. 2500 days=roughly 7 years.
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Gary Brekke
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Alaska, USA
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 7:20 am Opinion
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Everyone's entitled to their own wrong opinion.  |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 7:46 am
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You can have an opinion immediately. Whether or not others who are more knowledgeable and experienced than you will give any credence to your opinion most likely depends on your own knowledge and experience, and whether your opinion agrees with theirs, or not.
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Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Quentin Hickey
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Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 8:09 am Re: Opinion
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Mike Neer
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NJ
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 8:10 am
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Two things we're all born with: opinions and ________ (you fill in the blank, but it rhymes with assrolls).
I held a lot of my own opinions early on, but decided against exercising them and instead spent more time listening to what others had to say. Mostly my opinions didn't hold much merit at the time. I feel differently about that now, however, and I stick to most of my own opinions about the instrument, players, etc.
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Jeff Scott Brown
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O'Fallon Missouri, USA
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 8:15 am
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Some of the responses seem to be addressing a question different than the one asked. I thought he was asking how long one has to play before they are allowed to have an opinion on the instrument.
If the question is more like how long does one have to play before they have any authoritative perspective or how long before someone has considerable relative expertise, etc., then "how long" seems like an invalid, or at least un-useful, measure.
JSB
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 8:31 am
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Well, really the question is too vague, isn't it? I mean, how long does one have to play PSG in order "to have an opinion on it"? To have an opinion on what aspect of it? On how you like your own guitar? On whether your guitar is the "best" ever made? On whether you like the sound of PSG at all? On how hard it is to learn? On how it makes audiences feel? On how it fits into hip-hop music? On whether Jerry Garcia or Robert Randolph or Buddy Emmons is the greatest who ever lived? On the relative strengths and weaknesses of the changer design? etc. etc. etc.
It's pretty obvious that you're always entitled to your opinion at any point in time. Also, hopefully your opinions will mature and shift, as necessary, as you gain more experience and exposure.
Now, re-reading the original question, it sounds like Curt might have gotten his hand slapped by somebody who implied (or perhaps stated directly) the view that he didn't have enough experience to state his point of view. Perhaps his original post was posing a sarcastic, rhetorical question, in which case, it is duly noted and we can all go home now.
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Gary Brekke
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Alaska, USA
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 9:00 am Opinion
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| Wow Quentin! I wasn't pointing my opinion at anyone or anything in particular. Just expressing my own wrong opinion - IMHO! |
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Curt Trisko
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St. Paul, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 9:27 am
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| The question was a little tongue-in-cheek. But we're such a small community that it's hard for a newbie to participate without degrading the quailty of conversation on here. I've got plenty of opinions and bouncing ideas back and forth is a great way to learn. |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 9:30 am
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| I happen to believe that everyone is entitled to my opinion! ---> Click Here |
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Dave Hopping
From:
Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 9:46 am
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There are opinions,and then there are opinions from people who are asked for their opinion.The latter do not need "YMMV" as a postscript.
As always,YMMV. |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 21 Nov 2012 9:55 am
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When I want opinions on steel guitar, I listen up, because my own experience has been limited, but in all other topics of music I take most opinions here with a grain of salt.
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