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Larry Bressington
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Nebraska
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Posted 4 Aug 2012 9:44 am |
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I have been dwelling on having an only 2 pedal steel for sometime for my own reasons, [mostly less movement]and the most efficient yet simple Co-ped.
Has anybody tried the 2 pedal thing. The E raise seems to be the problem to tackle.
They say Weldon Myrick could do more with one pedal than most of us can imagine, i cant see why i would need more than two! 
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 4 Aug 2012 11:35 am
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With only two pedals, I feel you'd probably be best off with just a standard E9th with the A&B pedals. Raising the E would seem superfluous if you're going for 2-pedal simplicity. (I play my 400 without the E raise.) Think intervals instead of triads, and the missing note won't bother you.  |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Bob Tuttle
From:
Republic, MO 65738
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Posted 4 Aug 2012 12:18 pm
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Russ Pahl uses two foot pedals.
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Cliff Kane
From:
the late great golden state
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Posted 4 Aug 2012 12:41 pm
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| I think Dan Lanois might only use two pedals, at least on one of his guitars, but then not too many players approach the instrument like he does. Listen to the great non-pedal players.....they don't need no stinking pedals. Less can be more. |
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Bobby Bowman
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Cypress, Texas, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 4 Aug 2012 1:18 pm 2?
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I use only 2 pedals on my E-9 neck. Been that way for a lot of years (about 35 years). Mine are B A wrether than A B. Had as many as 4, but never a "C" pedal.
BB
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 4 Aug 2012 5:09 pm
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Speaking of 2 pedals...
Bobby do you have that 20 bucks you owe me..
Guess I'll have to come up there and collect it in some kind of trade.. 
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 4 Aug 2012 5:46 pm
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| There is actually a lot that can be done with two pedals a lot of really great music can be made with two pedals which Im not against anybody wanting a lot of knee levers and pedals but I think its great that a lot of people like to see what they can do with simple setups. |
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Russ Wever
From:
Kansas City
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 5 Aug 2012 12:46 am
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Thanks fellows this is great stuff...
Donnie...That makes the most sense of it all. I will un-hook my C pedal rod tomorrow and see if i can live without it [I doubt it] but i'll have to if i want to have this primitive co-ped, i know i will become a better player with less toys and more fretboard.
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Last edited by Larry Bressington on 5 Aug 2012 1:25 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 5 Aug 2012 1:14 am
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Thanks for the pic's men!!
4 Knee's jim, and 'No' vertical on this exsperiment.
Bob bowman...Thank you, Do you have the E raise a full tone anywhere in your co-ped for the minor chords? If not are you just picking 2 strings at a time then like donnie sayes?
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 5 Aug 2012 5:34 am
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Larry, with the "chromatic" strings in there for melodic effect, both the D# lever (G#m open) and A pedal (C#min open) give you all the minors you need. And the AB pedals along with strings 1&7 give you F#m
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Bobby Bowman
From:
Cypress, Texas, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Aug 2012 6:08 am
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Larry,
Yessir, I have a lever that raises string 4 E to F# and it also lowers string 8 E to D#.
BB
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If you build 'em, build 'em good!
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Jeff Watson
From:
Anza, CA. USA
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Posted 5 Aug 2012 7:04 am
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| I think you'll find theres a bunch of us that have the E to F# raise on a knee lever (I think I'll go start a another thread). My C pedal has just hung there like an appendix for 30 years. |
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 5 Aug 2012 9:45 am
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| That is so true what russ wever said above in his post about Don Warden he did go a long way on two pedals he really played some great stuff on the porter wagoner show and he only had eight strings. |
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 5 Aug 2012 12:07 pm
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It looks like i'm settling on 2 pedals today...I'm raisng the 4th a whole tone and the 8th a half tone and of course using certain string groupings and as Donnie said; Sometimes only intervals, i got to have that 4th raise...
On the same levers...I also added the raise on my rear neck which is a 6 string Dobro... for the G string raise 1/2 on the same lever LKL and my D raise 1/2 step on my RKL...
Now i can run up and down the G tuning without those stinking slants  On a Dobro and remain seated at 2 pedals for 2 functions!
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Last edited by Larry Bressington on 5 Aug 2012 12:16 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 5 Aug 2012 12:15 pm
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| are you going to have any knee levers or have just two pedals. |
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 5 Aug 2012 12:16 pm
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4 knees daniel!
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 5 Aug 2012 1:24 pm
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| sorry about that I didnt see the above post |
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From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 5 Aug 2012 3:59 pm
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I just got her all finished up, removed a lot of stuff and weight and put new white fretboard's on this afternoon...All i got to do now, is practice all week with this Pedal missing and raising the 4th on the knee, I got a gig on friday.
These 2 pedals will keep me busy for a lifetime, and my mind will be less cluttered and so will the undercarriage! 
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Drew Howard
From:
48854
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Posted 22 Nov 2012 3:59 pm
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Don't forget ol' Two-Pedal Terry Wendt!
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J R Rose
From:
Keota, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 22 Nov 2012 5:59 pm
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Lets don't forget the great Ralph Mooney, even though he had a rack of pedals his most used was A&B
and a knee lever that rasied fourth (E) to F#. My long time friend Jim Florence copied that from him and that is how he started me. I went to the Emmons
but still miss that pedal so going to put it back on.
Jim could play a handfull of Steel but you would see him slip in a bar slant and not even know he did it.
Of course he was from the old school, May He Rest In Peace. J.R. |
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Dave Zirbel
From:
Sebastopol, CA USA
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Posted 23 Nov 2012 9:20 am
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I think two pedals is a great idea. It forces you to do other things like slant and move the bar more.  Someone posted a video link of Jimmy Day with 1 pedal and 8 strings. Some of the most beautiful steel playing ever!
I've been thinking about a two pedal tuning lately also. I recently took my ZB S10 out with only two pedals and 3 knees on it. The only person that noticed was....the other steel player on the bill that was touring with a Nashville act. He played like he had 20 strings, 8 pedals and 5 knees, and he was gonna make sure they all got used! Good player for sure.
I've seen Bobby Black play bluegrass (Rocky Top) on 12 strings and no pedals. He KILLED it - in a good way!
Just my two cents.... 
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Sierra S-10 (Built by Ross Shafer),ZB, Fender 400 guitars, various tube and SS amps |
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